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RuffledFeathers
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: Smoking - not smoke - Detector for Students |
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So my school has this breathalyzer that detects if the student is smoking..
holy shit....My one student just got beaten upside the head with a newspaper. I'm sitting here trying not to get up and kick the living shit out of the teacher.
He blew into the detector and it detected that he was smoking...now he's taking a serious licking with a stick.
I cant' handle this shit..... |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Kid will be croaking for a smoke after getting beat. |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| This week was a bad one for the smokers in my HS. 14 1st graders got caught, most repeat offenders. some kids caught 3 times this week. They get a good whack with the love stick, a writing thing (which is totally bogus) and probably have to clean the toilets. Pretty light i tihnk. you get caught smoking 3 times in a week back home and youll get suspended. nothing like that here...its just laughed off really. |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Smoking - not smoke - Detector for Students |
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| RuffledFeathers wrote: |
| So my school has this breathalyzer that detects if the student is smoking... |
That's a great idea. Kids shouldn't be smoking. |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Location: asdfghjk
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| neither should the teachers. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Wait - so for how long does this thing pick up the scent of smoke? Is it even that accurate? Roadside breathalyser tests aren't admissible in court because they don't always work. What if the student walked by a bunch of teachers who were smoking and breathed a bunch of second-hand smoke?
The last student I caught smoking near our school was literally on her knees begging me not to take her to the staff room. |
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RuffledFeathers
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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I dont know how the machine works, all I know is in the middle of my post I had to physically remove myself from the office. The teacher was beating the kid out of anger. I wanted to beat the shit out of the teacher.
Hitting is one thing, beating is another....If it wasnt' for my stupid contract, I would have mopped the floor with that asshole!!! Piss me the *beep* off... |
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HotspurCell
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Back in the day when the legal smoking age in England was 16, my high school had a designated smoking zone for students in the 6th form blocks...
Of course smoking shouldn't be encouraged but hitting the kids seems a bit extreme, especially when you consider that the punishment comes from teachers who openly smoke in front of the classroom windows... |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| HotspurCell wrote: |
Back in the day when the legal smoking age in England was 16, my high school had a designated smoking zone for students in the 6th form blocks...
Of course smoking shouldn't be encouraged but hitting the kids seems a bit extreme, especially when you consider that the punishment comes from teachers who openly smoke in front of the classroom windows... |
I was in that smoking room. It takes the cool out of it when it's allowed at
college. Didnt stop me, however, from becoming the 20-a-day coolest guy in the room smoker i am today. |
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johnny_larue
Joined: 09 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Smoking is legal for teens in Canada, it's just illegal for anyone under 19 to purcahse cigarettes. People used to smoke all the time right outside of school property and the school would only ensure that smoking didn't happen on school grounds. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| johnny_larue wrote: |
| Smoking is legal for teens in Canada, it's just illegal for anyone under 19 to purcahse cigarettes. People used to smoke all the time right outside of school property and the school would only ensure that smoking didn't happen on school grounds. |
At the Canadian secondary school I volunteered at (in 2004) some students would light up as soon as they had walked off school grounds. And in Quebec CECEP students (who could be as young as 16) smoke wherever they please. |
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JJJ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've caught my middle school boys smoking behind the trees at school and saw a few girls from my school smoking up this summer. What can I say, many of us tried this when we were grade 8 or 9. It's just like having your 1st drink at that age.
However, if you want them to stop, forget the whacking on the head, give them a pack of smokes and tell them to smoke it all, one after the other. And stay with them until they puke. The odds that they never smoke again are very high on this method. I've seen this in action. |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| JJJ wrote: |
I've caught my middle school boys smoking behind the trees at school and saw a few girls from my school smoking up this summer. What can I say, many of us tried this when we were grade 8 or 9. It's just like having your 1st drink at that age.
However, if you want them to stop, forget the whacking on the head, give them a pack of smokes and tell them to smoke it all, one after the other. And stay with them until they puke. The odds that they never smoke again are very high on this method. I've seen this in action. |
JJJ, I like that idea... It's like a pitcher on my baseball team that got drunk the night before a morning start for him. The coach didn't take him out with we fell behind in the 1st or 2nd inning, he made the kid throw about 120 pitches into the 4th inning, and just got hammered. you could see he was in pain out there, and his season ERA was ruined.
anyways... kids smoking. i dont care how, but punish them. smoking will kill them. if they drove drunk in a car, would it be okay not to punish them?
unfortunately, in this country, punishment is fines for adults and beatings for students, that is all they know.
but honestly, i might have done the same thing. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| I always wonder what a lot of people consider inhuman punishment? I've met a few that think being on your knees, with your hands in the air, warrants a call to amnesty international. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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I used to get all bent out of shape when teachers smacked students a bit. Now, I'm not for smacking the kid with a closed fist or something like that, but I personally hope Korea doesn't go down the same road as people in the USA have -- no discipline at all.
Can you not see how kids in the USA have no fear of adults, and feel they can get away with anything? How about Canada.
There needs to be a respect for authority, and a fear of doing something wrong.
As I said, I have a limit, but I feel Korea has every right to allow its teachers to spank the kids in the shins when they deserve it. |
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