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mises
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 Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: Investigate Congress for Anti-Americanism |
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"Investigate Congress for Anti-Americanism", Says Republican Michelle Bachmann: A Glimpse of the Future
We now know what the future is going to look like if the trends continue and Barack Obama is elected President with increased Democratic majorities in Congress.
Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) indicated on the Matthews' program ("Hardball") that the news media ought to do a thorough investigation of all members of Congress to determine who is "anti-American". She is clearly not alone in her sentiments, conflating "liberal", with "leftist", with "anti-American".
These sentiments are not new. Indeed, they have always been lurking, but were suppressed as the rightwing held either Congress or the Presidency or both.
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The strategy is clear: win by any means necessary; if they lose, delegitimize the victory; once out of power, start the investigation of Members of Congress for Anti-Americanism.
Welcome to the next era of American politics! |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/investigate-congress-for_b_135753.html |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey they could take it one step further and investigate everyone that gave money to any of the campaigns associated with those they deem "anti-american". Think of how many people they could place under investigation. Scary isn't it? |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Great idea! If they did, most would get thrown out for all the unconstitutional stuff they have done (e.g. originating spending bills in the Senate) or not done (allowing wars to go forward without declaring them).
I say throw them all out and start afresh. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| A SENSATION is not a trend. I need two more prominant examples of such McCarthyism before I'll be remotely worried. |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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She's netted her opponent $130,000 so far thanks to that interview:
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660
This morning it was down at under $10,000 and then the interview came up and it's rocketed up since then. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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mirthridates,
I've seen several places where messages have been posted encouraging people to give to Tinklenberg and it appears to be working. I was looking for a poll, but couldn't find one. I'll have to post it later. It sounded like it was fairly close, but Bachmann was still holding a lead. She may have put her foot in her mouth for the last time. |
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mises
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently it is more than 500k now, or so says Salon.com. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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When the election-year hysteria ends, and when all the dust settles, if they actually move to do this, and if they have the votes to establish it, and if no one moves against them for doing it, let me know.
Until then, I have had enough of this hysterical seizing on this or that statement or image or Youtube.com clip. Let us vote, already. It will only become more divisive and destructive for the rest of this month. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) indicated on the Matthews' program ("Hardball") that the news media ought to do a thorough investigation of all members of Congress to determine who is "anti-American". |
I'm surprised the kooks on the Right trust the media enough to entrust them with the investigation. Well, maybe she had Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter in mind.
Of course the kooks wouldn't think this kind of stuff would be necessary if the liberals would just play nice (lay down and die) and let them win--so the liberals are at fault again. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) indicated on the Matthews' program ("Hardball") that the news media ought to do a thorough investigation of all members of Congress to determine who is "anti-American". |
I'm surprised the kooks on the Right trust the media enough to entrust them with the investigation. Well, maybe she had Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter in mind.
Of course the kooks wouldn't think this kind of stuff would be necessary if the liberals would just play nice (lay down and die) and let them win--so the liberals are at fault again. |
Her views do not represent the vast majority of people in the GOP, but it does show you that some people with fascist type thinking are using the cover of the GOP and are not representing their party in a positive way.
She did say all Congressmen should be investigated, but the majority of Congressmen are Democrats. Anyway, the American people voted for these Congressmen. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Says Republican Michelle Bachmann: A Glimpse of the Future |
Her idea isn't really all that new. We started hearing extremist talk like that at least as far back as '68. Love it or leave it. Many on the right have never accepted that different visions are possible without being traitors.
Extremist talk comes from both ends of the spectrum, but what is disturbing lately is that the extremist talk from the right seems to be becoming mainstream conservative speak. I hope that is a misperception. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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LawSuit against Congress/Senate
Roger Weidner, ex Federal Prosecutor is going to file Criminal charges against the Congressmen and Senators who are openly breaking the laws of this country and not standing up for the oath of office they swore to uphold
This needs to be started quickly. Support this effort with what ever you can afford, it will cost a minimum of $5,000 to get this started and get Mr. Weidner to DC to file the paperwork and put this into action
Stand up now. Fight back. Put the Government back into the hands of the People not the Crooks in DC.
click on link for more information or to contribute |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| bacasper wrote: |
Great idea! If they did, most would get thrown out for all the unconstitutional stuff they have done (e.g. originating spending bills in the Senate) or not done (allowing wars to go forward without declaring them).
I say throw them all out and start afresh. |
Article 1 section 7
"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."
Doesn't say spending, it says raising revenue.
War powers are within the context of the Executive, as Commander in Chief. It is the responsibility of Congress to make declarations of War. The duty to limit the War powers lies with the congress, this has been upheld by the Supreme Court on several occasions. The history of war proves this out.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/warandtreaty.htm |
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Gatsby
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October 21, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
The Real Scandal
By BOB HERBERT
It never ends. The Republican Party never gets tired of spraying its poison across the American political landscape.
So there was a Republican congresswoman from Minnesota, Michele Bachmann, telling Chris Matthews on MSNBC that the press should start investigating members of the House and Senate to determine which ones are �pro-America or anti-America.�
Can a rancid Congressional committee be far behind? Leave it to a right-wing Republican to long for those sunny, bygone days of political witch-hunting.
Ms. Bachmann�s demented desire (�I would love to see an expos� like that�) is of a piece with the G.O.P.�s unrelenting effort to demonize its opponents, to characterize them as beyond the pale, different from ordinary patriotic Americans � and not just different, but dangerous, and even evil.
But the party is not content to stop there. Even better than demonizing opponents is the more powerful and direct act of taking the vote away from their opponents� supporters. The Republican Party has made strenuous efforts in recent years to prevent Democrats from voting, and to prevent their votes from being properly counted once they�ve been cast.
Which brings me to the phony Acorn scandal.
John McCain, who placed his principles in a blind trust once the presidential race heated up, warned the country during the presidential debate last week that Acorn, which has been registering people to vote by the hundreds of thousands, was �on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history.�
It turns out that a tiny percentage of these new registrations are bogus, with some of them carrying ludicrous names like Mickey Mouse. Republicans have tried to turn this into a mighty oak of a scandal, with Mr. McCain thundering at the debate that it �may be destroying the fabric of democracy.... |
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/opinion/21herbert.html?ref=opinion |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: |
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It would seem that Representative Bachman's concern about anti-Americanism in Congress is indirectly proportional to her prospects for getting re-elected. Although, in all honesty, she didn't say what she said and even if she did say it, it wasn't her fault because she was 'trapped' by the media. 
Minn. rep calls talk show appearance `big mistake'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_ho/minnesota_congresswoman |
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