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visitorq
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 Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: Antony Sutton interview: Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler |
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Antony Sutton, a professor and former research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institute, gives a fascinating interview in which he describes the deliberate role that the international banking establishment (including the major American banks and corporations like Ford, GE and Standard Oil) played in both financing and transferring invaluable Western technology to enemies of America, including Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. He describes how the banks funded these various forms of socialism around the globe from the outset (whether Bolshevik or 'National Socialism'), and even transferred them crucial military technology before or while they were fighting Americans in wars (whether directly or by proxy).
His research findings were suppressed and he was pressured by the Hoover Institute not make any such information public (he eventually resigned).
There's only a few interviews of him on youtube (filmed back in the 70's), but I'd really like to find some copies of his books to check out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCpsq55uic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3MSX_YM1Gc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYzXp2eUGz8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZp6MkSFx0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38burerNKB8&feature=related |
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some waygug-in
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| These are very enlightening. Thanks for posting them. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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So corporations were financing regimes that ideologically promised to nationalise those same corporations?
Oliver Stone is producing a film about Hitler and has stated he's trying to highlight outside factors causing his rise. Among this seems to be the involvement of American companies and W's grandfather; and of course, everyone knows IBM supplied computing for the holocaust.
Isn't the big lesson from this actually the importance of regulating companies so profit-motive doesn't override politics? |
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some waygug-in
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| The big lesson should be that things like 911, Al Quaeda and the GWOT are more of the same kinds of scams. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
| So corporations were financing regimes that ideologically promised to nationalise those same corporations? |
The big secret is that capitalism will still exist in a socialist framework - except that it becomes corrupt as hell and you get a few crooks at the top operating outside the law, controlling everything. In fact the international banking establishment (or New World Order or whatever catch-all phrase you want to use) considers socialism to be the ideal form of government, because it allows them to control everything, eliminate competition, and hold markets captive.
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| Oliver Stone is producing a film about Hitler and has stated he's trying to highlight outside factors causing his rise. Among this seems to be the involvement of American companies and W's grandfather; and of course, everyone knows IBM supplied computing for the holocaust. |
Yes, a little known fact is that the Bush family isn't from Texas, they're actually an elite part of the Eastern banking establishment. Prescott Bush was a senior partner at Brown Brothers Harriman as well as a director at the Union Bank, both controlled by William Averell Harriman (one of the major banking kingpins in America, on par with David Rockefeller). Harriman was Bush's colleague at Yale, both were active members of Skull and Bones (which GHW and GW Bush would also join). Harriman was also a major financier for the Bolsheviks. Plenty of dots to be connected.
The Union Banking Corporation was the main Wall Street connection to German companies, and had its assets seized by the US government for the duration of the war (after Pearl Harbor), and they were all returned after the war ended. Nobody was held criminally accountable.
As for Oliver Stone, I've heard his movie gets into how American companies financed Hitler, but doesn't focus on the banking establishment per se, or the fact that American banks and companies also built up the Bolsheviks from the very beginning, all the way through the Cold War.
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| Isn't the big lesson from this actually the importance of regulating companies so profit-motive doesn't override politics? |
No, you've got it completely backwards. Regulation is what allows corrupt governments to form anti-competitive cartels with major corporations. The governments themselves are all beholden to the banking establishment, which in turn controls most of the major companies. It's an unholy trinity, and they use government regulation to keep it going. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
| The big lesson should be that things like 911, Al Quaeda and the GWOT are more of the same kinds of scams. |
Yes, and many of the very same people (or their children) are involved as were involved in building up Hitler and he Soviets. GHW was at one time head of the CIA, which went on to fund Al Qaida. Then his son, good friend and business associate of the Bin Ladens, oversees the events of 911, an event which would give him the power he needed to take our country into two major wars, and earn himself a fortune. That family has been doing business with America's enemies for the better part of a century. |
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some waygug-in
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Antony Sutton interview: Wall Street and the Rise of Hit |
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Read this book too if you haven't yet:
http://www.amazon.com/Adolf-Hitler-Definitive-John-Toland/dp/0385420536
It's from 1976 but probably remains the definitive biography of Hitler, and details some of what this thread is about. The short version is that big business thought Hitler as Chancellor was going to be a pushover they could somewhat control back in 1933 when they helped to finance him. |
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