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plato's republic
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T-J
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Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Best news I've heard in a while. Hope it's successful. |
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Morticae
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| Best news I've heard in a while. Hope it's successful. |
I have the same feelings about the 2012 apocalypse. |
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Troglodyte
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| "Plus, they won't complain about health insurance, sick leave and severance package, or leave in three months for a better-paying job in Japan... all you need is a repair and upgrade every once in a while." |
Classic. I like this article even better than the one in the Joongang Daily.
The other great comment was this:
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| The machines can be an efficient tool to hone language skills for many people who feel nervous about conversing with flesh-and-blood foreigners, he said. |
That's great. Why go to the bother of learning with a human teacher. It's not like they're ever going to have to talk to a real human at some point in their life, right? I mean, most western companies have robot businessmen now and I can't think of a single university in the West that still employs humans to teach classes. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| It might work to teach phonics, but the whole point of having a human English teacher from a Western country is to teach kids skills to successfully interact with foreigners; not simply to learn the ABC's. Many Korean teachers already teach the ABC's and it's just that; nothing more than students sounding off the alphabet song. It might have a video screen image of a white person for a head, but that's far different than a real human experience. If robot teachers became the standard, expect kids to come up with no social skills who just freeze up in panic when face to face in college or later on not to say they don't already respond like that in the presence of a foreigner. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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I certainly hope these robots are 'interesting' and 'funny'.  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| Morticae wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| Best news I've heard in a while. Hope it's successful. |
I have the same feelings about the 2012 apocalypse. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: Re: I, Robot |
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| "Plus, they won't complain about health insurance, sick leave and severance package, or leave in three months for a better-paying job in Japan... all you need is a repair and upgrade every once in a while." |
Well if they didn't constantly try to rip people off by lying and/or not paying health insurance, sick leave, severance packages, they wouldn't be complaining about it all the time. And they wouldn't be running away to "Japan".
Seriously, when are these complete and utter fools going to realize, they are the problem. Pay people what you promise to pay them, give them the benefits you promise to give them and most of the complaints will magically disappear.
This being Korea, why actually deal with the problem when there is always a good band-aid fix just around the corner. And of course, it could never be anything to do with them that is the problem. You no understand Korea, we perfect. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: I, Robot |
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| "Plus, they won't complain about health insurance, sick leave and severance package, or leave in three months for a better-paying job in Japan... all you need is a repair and upgrade every once in a while." |
Well if they didn't constantly try to rip people off by lying and/or not paying health insurance, sick leave, severance packages, they wouldn't be complaining about it all the time. And they wouldn't be running away to "Japan".
Seriously, when are these complete and utter fools going to realize, they are the problem. Pay people what you promise to pay them, give them the benefits you promise to give them and most of the complaints will magically disappear.
This being Korea, why actually deal with the problem when there is always a good band-aid fix just around the corner. And of course, it could never be anything to do with them that is the problem. You no understand Korea, we perfect. |
They probably will try to cheat the robots and the robots will secretly band together, form their own organization,
create Skynet, and yadda, yadda, yadda, Terminator, John Connor, you know the rest. |
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OBwannabe
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| I just happened to be watching I, robot as I came by this thread. Trippy. |
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murmanjake
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Link to the joongang daily article:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2930207
The robot is shorter than the students. The kids in the back row won't even be able to see the damn thing.
And the teacher controlling it is from the PHILLIPINES. As real live teachers they're not sufficient, but as robots they are?
They'd do better with a projector and the same internet feed. An even cheaper way to provide an English education to those students in undesirable rural areas.
Not to mention the thing just looks stupid. Why egg-shaped? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| And the teacher controlling it is from the PHILLIPINES. As real live teachers they're not sufficient, but as robots they are? |
Genius isn't it. The idea was to cut out real teachers yet now they rely on people in the philippines.
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| Plus, they won't complain about health insurance, sick leave and severance package, or leave in three months |
Next up : Filippino robot teachers complain of contract violations. |
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oldfatfarang
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Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Next up : Filippino robot teachers complain of contract violations. |
Win. Win.
1) No foreign teachers to complain about contract violations.
2) No Labor Board protection for robots or Phillipine teachers.
How is this not a another guaranteed successful change to Korean TEFL?
Let's face it - the introduction of English teaching robots is just another face saving exercise (blame the imported teachers for lack of progress and then we don't have to look at our ridiculous English education system). And let's not forget the money to be saved (and made) from locally made said robots.
One thing about Korean TEFL - it always throws up something to give you a laugh. |
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thegreg52
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| So what? I'm more handsome than the robot and that's why I'm here. |
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Smee
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Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If "English Fever" is as exceptionally high in South Korea as we observe and foreign correspondents note, and if communicative competence is as high a priority as the national curriculum has dictated for nearly a decade, it would behoove policy-makers to finally stop rash spending on gimmicks---like robots, expensive English-Only Zones, or inexperienced white people by the thousands---and start developing real solutions that produce results in the classroom, or at least ones that are suitable stand-ins until a generation of domestic English teachers can catch up to the roles in a communication-based English classroom for which they are currently unprepared. |
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/11/time-magazine-names-koreas-english.html |
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