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Captain Marlow



Joined: 23 Apr 2008
Location: darkness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: New required medical checks? Reply with quote

i'm asking this on behalf of some new teachers here... we have several new teachers, and they all have to go for a full medical check... when they first arrived, they had the pee in the cup/take your blood check for their visas...

but now (tomorrow) they have to go for a full check that includes not eating for the rest of tonight and tomorrow until after the exam, they are being put under and they have been told that they will have a tube put into their stomachs...

needless to say, they're all a little freaked out... they were told it has to do with medical insurance? funny thing is (and it has them wondering another "why?") that only 3 of the 5 new teachers have to do this...

has anyone heard of this or been asked to do this?
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Lukychrm42



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Cheonan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No freaking way. They can't force you to have surgery! I came almost two months ago, and went through the motions of some really basic health stuff. And that was that.
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Captain Marlow



Joined: 23 Apr 2008
Location: darkness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lukychrm42 wrote:
No freaking way. They can't force you to have surgery! I came almost two months ago, and went through the motions of some really basic health stuff. And that was that.


was that a second medical check beyond the pee/blood test? if so, what specifically did you undergo? xrays, stick out yer tongue and say, "ahh...", etc?
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NoExplode



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free English lesson scam for doctors. Someone's making money here. It's like a reverse-English Village. Instead of you working a fictional cash register and having K students come and ask you stuff in English, it's YOU going out to a doctor's office and them having to do real-world English talk-ee.
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's f*cking insane. We just sent a bunch of people for the 'full medical' as well and there were no tube insertions.

Your school/ hospital or whoever is seriously invasive and should be told to stick a tube up themselves, IMO.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No foreign visa-applicants has to have a tube put into their stomach..

obviously someone has the info (or translation) wrong...

the only test I know of involving a tube being put into the stomach is the

"stomach acid test" - that assesses the quantity and acidity of stomach contents.

why would a visa-applicant need that?
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Lukychrm42



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Cheonan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vision (read the letters with glasses as applicable), hearing (one beep in each ear- loud- I have a 35% hearing loss and I passed), blood pressure and heart rate, blood, urine, height and weight, there was supposed to be a dental check but they skipped it- oh darn.
Basic stuff, and I think they're most worried about the drugs and infectious diseases.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Re: New required medical checks? Reply with quote

Captain Marlow wrote:
but now (tomorrow) they have to go for a full check that includes not eating for the rest of tonight and tomorrow until after the exam, they are being put under and they have been told that they will have a tube put into their stomachs...

That tube is probably an endoscope. Your teachers must absolutely refuse to be put under general anesthesia without a written, certified, notarized guarantee that they will not be responsible for any costs resulting from complications resulting from said procedure until the end of time.

Until then, they absolutely must not sign consent.

Useful phrases:

I am an American/Australian/British/Canadian citizen.
저는 미국/호주/영국/캐나다 국민입니다. (jeneun miguk/hoju/yeong-gook/kaenada gungminimnida)
I want to talk to the American/Australian/British/Canadian embassy/consulate.
미국/호주/영국/캐나다 대사관/영사관 에 이야기하고 싶습니다. (migook/hoju/yeong-guk/kaenada daesagwan/yeongsagwan e iyagihago sipseumnida)

In the new K/US agreement on free passage and trade, there is no mention of anyone getting a gastrointestinal endoscopy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endoscopy

And take it up with immigration.

If they wanted to shove a tube down my throat, I would sue the holy shit out of them, especially if they waited until I got here to ask.
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Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this once. It was an endoscope inserted all the way down to the small intestine. To check for an ulcer. It was done with an injection of super strength valium.

If you were to vomit during the exam, the complications could be serious if stuff got into your lungs.

With valium you remain semi-conscious. You can respond to directions. You may even be able to talk, for all I know.

This procedure, of course, is not appropriate for a routine physical exam, here in Korea or anywhere in the world.
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Ultimo Hombre



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: BEER STORE

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These tests were a bit of a pain for me. I had to give blood twice and then the doctor's excellently awful bedside manner freaked me out when he asked to do more tests and take more blood. Come to find out they just made a mistake and covered it up by inconveniencing me slightly. But, a throat tube? No way Jose.

They also told everyone I work with that our blood pressure is high. Do Koreans gauge it differently?
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultimo Hombre wrote:
These tests were a bit of a pain for me. I had to give blood twice and then the doctor's excellently awful bedside manner freaked me out when he asked to do more tests and take more blood. Come to find out they just made a mistake and covered it up by inconveniencing me slightly. But, a throat tube? No way Jose.

They also told everyone I work with that our blood pressure is high. Do Koreans gauge it differently?


Yes.

High blood pressure in the US is 130/, in the UK it's 140/.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger, good medical info, bad new teacher info.

OP: Stupid question. Check the Immigration website about requirements. If being sedated is part of the process, I'll buy you dinner in the Jonggak Tower's top restaurant.

Everyone else: First, you have 90 days after arriving in Korea to submit your medical check (including drug and AIDS test). 2nd, your employer can not dictate where you get this test (unless you signed some special stipulation, in that case you are an idiot). 3rd, don't get it in your small, rural town as everyone will know your blood type, medical problems and birthmarks. Finally, if you can, go to a western doctor, even if it costs more. Let me suggest Severance Hospital's International Clinic (next to Yonsei University). It's more money, but no BS.
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Captain Marlow



Joined: 23 Apr 2008
Location: darkness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Straphanger, good medical info, bad new teacher info.

OP: Stupid question. Check the Immigration website about requirements. If being sedated is part of the process, I'll buy you dinner in the Jonggak Tower's top restaurant.

Everyone else: First, you have 90 days after arriving in Korea to submit your medical check (including drug and AIDS test). 2nd, your employer can not dictate where you get this test (unless you signed some special stipulation, in that case you are an idiot). 3rd, don't get it in your small, rural town as everyone will know your blood type, medical problems and birthmarks. Finally, if you can, go to a western doctor, even if it costs more. Let me suggest Severance Hospital's International Clinic (next to Yonsei University). It's more money, but no BS.


first, i didn't ask a stupid question... i asked if anyone else had to undergo the same as my new coworkers will... if you have a high school education even, you'd pick up on the tone of my post, and of mine and my coworkers' suspicion about having to do a secondary medical check...

we live in daegu, so i'm not sure if there are "western" doctors... the school has arranged to take these teachers to the hospital, not leaving them a choice of choosing their own...

thanx for nothing...
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you let someone put a tube into your stomach you might as well bend over and get a colonoscopy while you're at it
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
if you let someone put a tube into your stomach you might as well bend over and get a colonoscopy while you're at it


And a full body cavity search for hidden drugs too.
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