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dexter
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: Bad Teachers |
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I'm a non-experienced prospective teacher of English in Korea.
Can some of you experienced teachers give examples you have seen of what a bad or poor English teacher is like so as I can aim to not be like that?
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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doesn't try,
doesn't care,
doesn't work hard,
doesn't prepare lessons,
doesn't enjoy being with the students |
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Korussian
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Just one more to add onto VanIslander's comment:
A bad teacher doesn't get that a good relationship with Korean colleagues is worth more than gold.
A bad relationship with colleagues and bosses can sink you, morally if not professionally. They can make your life very easy, or very difficult - on a whim. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Korussian wrote: |
A bad teacher doesn't get that a good relationship with Korean colleagues is worth more than gold |
I ignore the Korean teachers and they ignore me. I think that helps me be a better teacher because I'm not fretting over office politics, simply go to work and do my job, focus on the classes and the kids not the extraneous stuff. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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A bad teacher, in my view, is one who insists that he/she is always right, refuses to consider alternate views or take into account that there may be good reasons Koreans do things the way that they do.
Then that teacher constantly complains and rants on about how "stupid" everything here is, how things would be so much better if they would just do things his/her way and how much better it was to teach somewhere else.
Oh...wait....that sounds a lot like me my first couple of years here.
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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In Korea, a bad teacher is someone who doesn't know their place.
You'll spend most of your first few years teetering between what you think is right or fair and what the Koreans expect you to do. Unless there are glaring discrepancies (late pay, crap housing, no overtime pay...), stow the contract and stay flexible. |
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Zutronius

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Location: Suncheon
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Don't teach hungover. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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A bad teacher is a public school teacher who:
1. Joins an anti-foreigner union
2. Kicks their feet up on their desks because their job is "safe"
3. Physically abuses students
4. Can't speak English, yet teaches it
5. Tries to politically influence their students in misleading ways.
6. Is unwilling to allow their students to take part in a national test which might prove their teaching inadequate. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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some waygug-in wrote: |
A bad teacher, in my view, is one who insists that he/she is always right |
Agree 100%. A bad teacher is one who stops learning. A good teacher can take criticism and learn from it. A bad teacher just shows up to work and collects a paycheck. A good teacher evaluates each class afterward and asks themselves "What could I have done better? Where did I go wrong?" |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Easter Clark wrote: |
some waygug-in wrote: |
A bad teacher, in my view, is one who insists that he/she is always right |
Agree 100%. A bad teacher is one who stops learning. A good teacher can take criticism and learn from it. A bad teacher just shows up to work and collects a paycheck. A good teacher evaluates each class afterward and asks themselves "What could I have done better? Where did I go wrong?" |
Pretty much-everyone has crapy lessons once in awhile-if they bother you, that's good-scrap them, or twique them, don't dwell on it and move on.
If you don't give a rat's arse at all then you will know-don't confuse that with culture shock, though, as they are different.
m-su, give it up-you act is tired, you're short and gay. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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A bad teacher can also be someone with good intentions, but who, through a lack of experience, knowledge, and confidence, jumps into a job he or she is simply not prepared for.
A 'can't do' attitude also lends itself very well to bad teaching. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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A bad teacher is one who takes their job entirely too seriously. |
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Tobias

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: No such thing |
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There's no such thing as a 'bad' teacher, really. Sure, there are those out there who couldn't find their own back pockets with both hands, but that doesn't make them 'bad'. The truth is any teacher's status of 'good' or 'bad' is determined not by his own efforts, or lack thereof, but by his students.
Good students will make a 'bad' teacher look not so bad. Bad students will make a 'good' teacher look not so good. Before anyone can call a teacher 'good' or 'bad', he should ask 'what are this person's students like? Do they exert the immense effort required to learn this subject, or do they expect to become fluent in three weeks, an hour a week?' He who is blessed with hard-working learners will naturally appear to be 'good'. Damn, that 'appearances' thing yet again comes into play.
Some teachers know that beating on a dead horse doesn't get them far, so they don't exert much effort as teachers. Just looking at a teacher doesn't really tell the tale. The whole picture must be taken.
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing |
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Tobias wrote: |
There's no such thing as a 'bad' teacher, really. Sure, there are those out there who couldn't find their own back pockets with both hands, but that doesn't make them 'bad'. The truth is any teacher's status of 'good' or 'bad' is determined not by his own efforts, or lack thereof, but by his students.
Good students will make a 'bad' teacher look not so bad. Bad students will make a 'good' teacher look not so good. Before anyone can call a teacher 'good' or 'bad', he should ask 'what are this person's students like? Do they exert the immense effort required to learn this subject, or do they expect to become fluent in three weeks, an hour a week?' He who is blessed with hard-working learners will naturally appear to be 'good'. Damn, that appearance thing yet again comes into play.
Just looking at a teacher doesn't really tell the tale. The whole picture must be taken. |
The last sentence is correct. But there are still bad teachers out there? Ever met someone who put "Friends" on for 3 out of five days? Ones that call their students stupid and not to question him (even though he is wrong)? I have. |
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Tobias

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: Actually |
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Actually, none of it is correct, and none of it is incorrect.
It's simply my opinion. |
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