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Cornfed



Joined: 14 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Student kills herself Reply with quote

One of my classes was cancelled today because a student had killed herself over a dispute with her mother or some such. I don't know which one it was yet and kind of dread finding out, since I quite like most of the girls in that class. I can't say I really blame kids for killing themselves these days as they really did pick a shitty time to be alive, but it's still rather sad. What usually happens after such events? Is one supposed to show sympathy and greif in some way or does life just go on?
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creesschaef



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Student kills herself Reply with quote

Cornfed wrote:
I can't say I really blame kids for killing themselves these days as they really did pick a shitty time to be alive, but it's still rather sad. What usually happens after such events? Is one supposed to show sympathy and grief in some way or does life just go on?


Just remember, nobody asks to be born.

Your school will go back to normal within a week. Sure, some of the students will be scarred for much longer, as well as the family. The suicide rate in this country is sky high, so it's nothing new for most people. Just ask your co-workers how many people they know that have killed themselves. It will amaze you.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at a school where one of the teachers killed himself. It was strange. They went out for a heavy drinking session. He was the one who helped everyone else go home. Then he drank poison. The next day he didn't show up. We later found out he had poisoned himself.

It's really morbid how quickly things get back to normal.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People stop mourning for non family members the minute the money envelope goes in the wooden box at the funeral.

Its basically like, "I"m so sorry for your loss. Here's 30,000w. I'm going back to my normal life now."
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xeno439



Joined: 30 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Student kills herself Reply with quote

creesschaef wrote:
Cornfed wrote:
I can't say I really blame kids for killing themselves these days as they really did pick a shitty time to be alive, but it's still rather sad. What usually happens after such events? Is one supposed to show sympathy and grief in some way or does life just go on?


Just remember, nobody asks to be born.

Your school will go back to normal within a week. Sure, some of the students will be scarred for much longer, as well as the family. The suicide rate in this country is sky high, so it's nothing new for most people. Just ask your co-workers how many people they know that have killed themselves. It will amaze you.


I've had known several people that have committed suicide in the U.S. I have known some that have been murdered. Many that have been in accidental deaths. Most Koreans I have met and talked to about the subject do not know anyone that has died in any form. In fact, most have lived very sheltered lives.
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Cerriowen



Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leading cause of death between 20-30 in Korea.

That sucks for the OP. I don't think you're expected to do anything. Her homeroom teacher will handle the school's participation.

They will most likely pretend like it didn't happen after a few days.
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QbertP



Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear it.

I had a girl at my school go missing for 4 days(not home, not school) I mentioned it to my CT's and I think I was the only one worried. Thankfully she showed back up.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it's time for her class to graduate from your school, her parents will be present. They will carry a mourning picture (large, framed photo with mourning ribbon) in the graduation parade.
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cobright



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Rochester Hills, MI

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Student kills herself Reply with quote

creesschaef wrote:

Just remember, nobody asks to be born.


A point that has been debated philosophically most of the last century. Read [url="man first of all exists, encounters himself, surges up in the world � and defines himself afterwards."]Sarte[/url] on the subject if you want to hate yet another french philosopher.
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drunkenfud



Joined: 08 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
When it's time for her class to graduate from your school, her parents will be present. They will carry a mourning picture (large, framed photo with mourning ribbon) in the graduation parade.


That must be a tragic sight.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's tragic, but it's also touching. I do like the idea that the student is still considered part of the class all the way through. It seems to comfort the parents.

And before anyone starts castigating the parents, let's try to remember that suicide is a very complex issue. Also, nobody really knows all the facts in the case. "Dispute with the mother" could be anywhere from "I cam cancelling your cell phone account" to beating the daylights out of the girl. As I said, nobody knows really what it was all about.
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Jimskins



Joined: 07 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my co-teachers killed themselves yesterday. I got a phone-call at half nine last night telling me the news, and to be ready in an hour in a suit to go for mourning. They then called me back to say don't worry about it and not to say anything to the students (they will tell them that he has gone on holiday).

I must admit he was not one of the co-teachers I was close too (he even asked permission to stop coming to my classes -I teach high school and never use my co-teachers at all) but I still feel pretty numb today, can't concentrate. He was friendly enough and we had a few sojus together. I really feel for his family, he had a wife and kids.

None of the teachers seem to be talking to each other today and everyone looks down, but I'm sure it will be back to normal tomorrow.

What a waste.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: What's the name of that hotel? Reply with quote

What's the name of that hotel in Bangkok the Farang keep jumping from?

No one asks to be born. No one has a choice in the hands he's given. The way I figure it, we have the right to decide, and suicide should be accepted. If one wants to jump, let 'im go. No dishonor there. If ya wanna take the leap, don't stay alive on my account. Don't let my boo-hoo-ing keep you from it.
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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some interesting parallels between gun deaths in the U.S. and suicides in Korea.

here are some statistics:

http://www.who.int/mental_health/media/repkor.pdf

and

http://www.ichv.org/Statistics.htm
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