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friendoken
Joined: 19 Jan 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: Why do you teach in Korea? |
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I did my year there. Loved my Principal, co-teachers, my apartment, the little town I lived in, hated the weather, the food and the attitudes of almost all the students. I will never set foot in the country again.
I still read this forum, and respond occasionally. It seems that for every awesome story there are far too many horror stories.
Why put up with the crap? Is it the money? I don't get it. I live and teach in Laos. I teach 17 X 45 min. and 6 X 90 min. classes a week. I clear $1300 a month with paid holidays, vacations, sick days, business visa etc. My school is the second highest rated in Laos; the Laos teachers make $75-$120 per month.
There is no hassle. Ever. The Laos are extremely friendly and generous and truly want foreigners in their country. Parents are happy when a foreigner is dating their daughter and everyone welcomes you everytime. I have been here going on three years.
What is keeping you in Korea? A country which clearly doesn't want you there. If it is the money, do you feel like a prostitute? |
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Why do you teach in Korea? |
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friendoken wrote: |
I did my year there. Loved my Principal, co-teachers, my apartment, the little town I lived in, hated the weather, the food and the attitudes of almost all the students. I will never set foot in the country again.
I still read this forum, and respond occasionally. It seems that for every awesome story there are far too many horror stories.
Why put up with the crap? Is it the money? I don't get it. I live and teach in Laos. I teach 17 X 45 min. and 6 X 90 min. classes a week. I clear $1300 a month with paid holidays, vacations, sick days, business visa etc. My school is the second highest rated in Laos; the Laos teachers make $75-$120 per month.
There is no hassle. Ever. The Laos are extremely friendly and generous and truly want foreigners in their country. Parents are happy when a foreigner is dating their daughter and everyone welcomes you everytime. I have been here going on three years.
What is keeping you in Korea? A country which clearly doesn't want you there. If it is the money, do you feel like a prostitute? |
I'm guessing people teaching at the second best schools in Korea are pulling down good money too. Pretty sure they're not making $1300 a month. |
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okokok

Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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There's no future at $1300 a month. |
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njp6

Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Location: Gangnam, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: |
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I still read this forum, and respond occasionally. It seems that for every awesome story there are far too many horror stories. |
Realize that most people will come on here to tell how terrible things are. Who posts to say how much they love their job?
Also it sounds like you are bragging about you make 10 times more than the Loas teachers. Is that success? Sorry, it just sounds shallow. |
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umpittse
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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You are right, there are way too many horror stories on Dave's ESL Cafe.
As to your questions:
1. What is keeping you there? Well, I'm not in Korea at the momment and haven't been there for three years. But, I will tell you what kept me there for one year, about three years ago and why I am moving back in March. I loved my co-workers. The Korean teachers were very friendly and helpful at work. Also, we occassionally spent time together outside of work. Most of the foreign teachers were friendly and sociable. We spent most of our free time together traveling, drinking and hangning out. My appartment was cozy, could have been a bit bigger but met my needs. My neighbourhood was great. There was a gym a block away, several dozen bars and restaurants within a five minute walking distance and work was a ten minute walk from my appartment. I found Koreans to be generally very friendly, outgoing and sociable. I made friends with them easily and still keep in contact with many of them to this day. The food I didn't like at first, but I grew to enjoy some of it. I didn't mind the weather too much except for the extreme heat and humidity in the summer time. As for the attitudes of the students, I found them to be generally very positive. In fact, I loved working with the kindergarten aged students.
You seem to be very impressed with the rewards and benefits of your current job situation. That's good. If I'm understanding you correctly, you seem to be comparing the salary and benefits of your current job with that of Korean jobs in general and have concluded that you current job is better with respect to salary and benefts. You didn't specify how many weeks of paid vacation and sick days you recieve at your current job. But, paid vacation, sick days and visa run money are quite common for jobs in Korea. In fact, many public schools offer 8 weeks of paid vacation, 15 sick days, 15 personal days, salaries of up to 2700 a month and paid return airfare. The job that I recently was offerred and accepted at a Korean college offers me 2200 a month 4-5 months of paid vacation (yes that's right), paid airfare and visa run money. Oh, did I mention that I will be working 12 hours a week (plus 3 hour of office a week). You stated that you work 17 X 45 min. and 6 X 90 min a week.
2. Is it the money that is encouraging me to return to Korea? No, it's the friendly and outgoing people, both Korean and foreign, and the cozy job I will be getting with 4-5 months of paid vacation. For those reasons I don't feel like a prostitute LOL for wanting to work in Korea. |
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MUOhio82
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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I had a momentary lapse in judgement and here I am
Lol |
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Whirlwind
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Money. Why else would people put up with all the garbage in Korea. Anyone that says that they're here for the culture is full of it. It's all about the money, which is why you'll see more people bailing when that won falls even further. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is the place that has nothing to offfer except money... and depending on the exchange rate, maybe not even that.
Ks are the most fucked-up people in the world. They don't realise China will take over. They're worried about 'face', but have no sense of honour.
They shake your right hand while stabbing you in the back with their left hand.
To generalize - Ks are mostly cunts! |
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EuroFunk

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: jobless in Busan
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
They shake your right hand while stabbing you in the back with their left hand. |
hey now, that is uncalled for. My personal favorite method is a well placed 9mm shot to the face, but besides the playful antics, some people teach in Korea because they have family/history to catch up with. With some Korean knowledge already, why bother going to somewhere else? |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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EuroFunk wrote: |
cruisemonkey wrote: |
They shake your right hand while stabbing you in the back with their left hand. |
hey now, that is uncalled for. My personal favorite method is a well placed 9mm shot to the face, but besides the playful antics, some people teach in Korea because they have family/history to catch up with. With some Korean knowledge already, why bother going to somewhere else? |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Location: left Korea
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: , |
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cruisemonkey wrote :
They shake your right hand while stabbing you in the back with their left hand.
To generalize..
you better maybe come /and meet my current school boss
He's quite a nice man, you idiot IMO ! |
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shoeboy

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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It ain't that bad a place...Alot o people come here to vent their frustrations so of course you hear alot of bad stories. Prostitute?  |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
They're worried about 'face', but have no sense of honour. |
Unfortunately one of the most accurate criticisms about Korea I've ever heard. And in the event that they don't try to screw you over you'll likely still end up banging your head against a wall dealing with well-meaning idiots. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: , |
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maingman wrote: |
cruisemonkey wrote :
They shake your right hand while stabbing you in the back with their left hand.
To generalize..
you better maybe come /and meet my current school boss
He's quite a nice man, you idiot IMO ! |
I'm sure your boss is nice (now); however, when you leave (in my case, after finishing two contracts) the psycho, K-cunt will 'turn' on you because - by leaving, you will have caused him to loose face. He'll 'bad mouth' you to everyone he knows... it's the nature of the K-beast. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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A country which clearly didn't want me there. |
There, I fixed it for you. No thanks necessary.
You really shouldn't generalize so much about 50 million people. Nine days out of ten, I feel extremely welcome here. I don't know what your problem was. My guess is that the problem wasn't with 'them'. |
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