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ELECTION DAY REALITY CHECK

 
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: ELECTION DAY REALITY CHECK Reply with quote

ELECTION DAY REALITY CHECK

Obama & Iran
Democrats and Republicans are of one mind in their resolve to step up undercover operations in Iran backed by the threat of a full-scale economic blockade or military action.
http://counterpunch.org/mayer10292008.html

Obama & Iraq
Obama says that Americans will have to tighten their belts because of the "cost of the war in Iraq." Doesn't that mean that the war will continue?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/378887/obama_and_iraq?rel=hpbox

Obama & Afghanistan
How would you explain to an Afghani child that Obama is the lesser of two evils when he's going to escalate the massive crimes against humanity the US and the NATO have already been committing in that country for the past seven years?
http://www.thecatsdream.com/blog/2008/10/happy-halloween.htm

Obama & Zionist Lobby
[H]e is considering a well-known, pro-Israeli Jewish congressman to be his chief of staff if elected.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/prominent-jewish-congressman-floated-obama-chief-staff/

Obama & Palestine
Bronfman, a former head of the World Jewish Congress, wrote in the piece titled "Israel's Best Interest is a Morally Strong America" that an honest broker was needed to push Israelis and Palestinians toward a two-state solution.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1033267.html

Obama & Neocons
Because of Obama's relative inexperience on foreign policy, it is this part of his team that is getting much of the attention, and one adviser in particular -- Dennis Ross, Bill Clinton's Mideast envoy whose record includes supporting the pro-Iraq War advocacy campaigns of the Project for the New American Century and serving as a consultant to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a bastion of Israel-centric policy thinking in Washington.
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=44546

Obama & the Surge
No lessons have been learned -- except of course the need to "surge," to escalate, to drop more bombs, kill more people, round up more captives, more quickly and more efficiently. This is what both Obama and McCain promise for Afghanistan, as Iraq withers away into a forgotten, smoldering ruin.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m48497&hd=&size=1&l=e

Obama & Rashid Khalidi
The Obama camp's response served only to reinforce the underlying assumption of the McCain campaign.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/the-racism-of-mccain-and-obama-and-the-media/


Obama & Detainees

"Now the majority of the folks in Guantanamo, I suspect, are there for a reason. There are a lot of dangerous people."

Obama & America's Outcast Muslims
"Obama has kind of thrown us under the bus."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/uselectionroadtrip/2008/nov/03/uselections2008-pennsylvania

Obama & UFPJ
United for Peace and Justice, the largest antiwar coalition in the country, hasn't organized a major antiwar protest in 18 months because its leadership has made a priority of "voting out the Republicans" -- and by none-too-subtle inference, voting in the Democrats.
http://socialistworker.org/2008/11/04/obama-and-building-movements
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread will certainly make neocon republicans gleeful.

True, that Bush certainly made things an absolute mess, and no way to just clean it all up overnight. It seems that with Iraq, Obama does intend to take those troops out and put them where they are needed - which seems to be Afghanistan. Afghanistan (with Osama Bin Ladin) have been GREATLY overlooked and almost ignored with this 'war on terrorism'.

Regarding the potential Israeli-Nationalist who might make Chief of Staff...sheesh, I can almost hear Joo Rip getting REAL excited, looks like he might turn back into a Democrat very soon...combine this with real intention of actual alternative energy and potentially revolutionizing America again as a leader in something again, and Joo Rip will be SOLD.

But, c'mon...Joe Lieberman is about as a big of an Israeli-Nationalist as you can get, and John McCain almost got him as his VP! I don't think you can find a bigger Israeli-Nationlism alive with as much power as Joe Lieberman! I think it might be necessary to have one of these Zionist with some political power, as it seems sadly something that the overall American populace seems to really want (as annoying as that is, comes with being a country with a strong christian background that feels loyalty towards Isreal for its savior being born of them).

Regardless, the entire 'war on terrorism' has been a financial mess among many many other things. Anyone who thinks all of these 'wars' will just go away because of Obama becoming President, is sadly mistaken.

What will happen is that we'll be putting a fresh set of eyes on the IMMENSE PROBLEMS that Bush hadn't a clue about, and McCain wanted to continue 'as is'. The fact that someone has come along who can really examine the IMMENSE PROBLEMS that exists is certainly a step in the right direction (and can't possibly be the magical pill to the problem).
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
This thread will certainly make neocon republicans gleeful.

Like someone else said, now Joo can be a Democrat again.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Now the majority of the folks in Guantanamo, I suspect, are there for a reason. There are a lot of dangerous people."


Isn't that true? Obama is suggesting that 0-49% of the 'folks' at Gitmo may be innocent.

THAT'S NOT ENUFFF! FASCIST!!!
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