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pidgin



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Stanley Kubrick fans... Reply with quote

Any here?

I know there's at least one on this forum, (unless he's only a fan of Malcolm McDowell). Wink

I'm working on an analysis of Kubrick's work (essay Masters level) through four films. (Lolita / Clockwork / Full Metal / Eyes Wide)

Wouldn't mind chatting a bit about camera movements, lighting, color, etc... (director stuff!) if anyone is interested.

If that strikes your fancy, maybe a portion of the intro. from the essay I'm writing (in progress) will too(?)

-then again, maybe not. Evil or Very Mad Laughing


Kubrick�s films always seem to serve up a very defined and unique purpose for the audience. Whether the shot is narrative in nature, thematic or psychological (to name a few) is irrelevant. His camera work, choice of shots and movement seem to stamp the reason why any aspiring or accomplished filmmaker must take very strong account of his tool cache, but Kubrick goes beyond that in his work.

His films give us a sense that he has personally chosen each and every shot from an array of possibilities that are beyond most movie-makers even today. Kubrick plays the role of filmmaker as Dali did for painter. The most outrageous selection can become a distinct possibility.

David Lynch was once quoted as saying something to the effect of, �I started making films to see my paintings come to life.� (sic) Perhaps if Kubrick were to say something to the same effect, it might come out as, �I started making films to shoot my favorite painting from every angle and at every speed possible.�
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pidgin



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*bump*
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures

is a great doco which explains the man
if you havent seen it, then you should download it right now..
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pidgin



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for thatv ItG Wink
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tomwaits



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason you chose those 4 films in particular?

All of his are great but Eyes Wide is ultimately a failure (IMHO) . For one thing New York looks so much like a soundstage. And not much substance ti it but again my opinion. Paths Of Glory to name one has more to offer.

A lot has been written on Kubrick but I guess you know that.

good luck with your project.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clockwork Orange and The Shining are two of my favorite movies. Seeing the latter on halloween as an 8 year old probably messed me all up -- probably moreso than seeing the former as a 7 year old.
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pidgin



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tom. You are my absolute favorite musician (and I'm not just saying that).

I guess I chose these four because I'm most familiar with them, and I'm working with a deadline.

Here's the outline I'm writing from (not formatted well) :

Kubrick Outline



I. Introduction
A. Purpose
1.
B. Commentary
2. Director
3. Films


II. 1st technique � Camera (movement)
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. concluding sentence



III. 2nd technique � Sound
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. concluding sentence




IV. 3rd technique � Lighting
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. concluding sentence






V. 4th technique � Editing
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. concluding sentence


VI.6th technique � Color
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. concluding sentence


VII. 5th technique � Other
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. concluding sentence



VIII. 6th Techniques Pioneered by Kubrick
A. Comparison
1. Topic sentence
2. Concrete detail
a. Front Projection
3. commentary
4. commentary
5. another concrete detail
a. Motion control
6. commentary
7. commentary
8. detail
a. on-film merchandising
9. detail
a. shooting by candlelight
8. concluding sentence





Paragraph #7 Conclusion
A. Final Commentray
#1: Restate the first sentence in the concluding paragraph;

#2-3: These sentences elaborate on the ideas stated in the sentence #1
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pidgin



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomwaits wrote:
All of his are great but Eyes Wide is ultimately a failure (IMHO).


Many critics and the box office agrees with you. Ironic how he considered it to be his finest work.

I'm sure you know it was shot in the UK, yeh?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Clockwork Orange and The Shining are two of my favorite movies.


Don't tell that to Stephen King. He was unhappy with the finished product and was quoted as saying : "Stanley just doesn't "get" horror."
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"There is also the famous Stephen King story of the phone ringing in the middle of the night. Stephen answers and it is Stanley calling from London. He is on the set of 'The Shining' and his voice sounds anxious. 'Do you believe in God?', Stanley demanded. Stephen cleared his throat and answered 'yes'. Stanley gruffly replied ' I knew it' and hangs up on Stephen. King, who clearly does not understand what Stanley was doing, disowned Kubrick's film of King's book."

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pidgin wrote:
ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Clockwork Orange and The Shining are two of my favorite movies.


Don't tell that to Stephen King. He was unhappy with the finished product and was quoted as saying : "Stanley just doesn't "get" horror."


The Shining is a heckuva lot scarier than gems like Silver Bullet or maximum Overdrive. Even Children of the Corn was more scary.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, I don't know what SK was on about. I read most of his first decade's work and I do think King "knows" written horror, but I doubt his cinema-scary abilities.

The Shining IS certainly a classic, but from a directing (or analytical) point of view......it... is...complicated to put it simply. And that is why I didn't include it in this analysis. (not enough time!)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loved The Shining as well. For me, the music put it over the top.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other day I picked up the box set "A Clockwork Orange", "Eyes Wide Shut", and "The Shining". uncut.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to write about about technique you really cannot avoid talking at least a little about "Barry Lyndon".

Camera lenses designed for NASA shooting scenes lit by candlelight etc.

I don't find it a very entertaining film but it is technically amazing.
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