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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:56 am Post subject: We don't live together! |
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Why won't most Korean teacher-employers (and that includes some universities as well), get it through their heads that most Westerners over the age of maturity , do not, will not consent to share their personal abode with a complete stranger? We are not about to be herded. I've turned down a few juicy-looking jobs for that very reason; the accommodation was either a 'shared apart' or a dormitory situation in which one is locked up like the students, at night. It's no wonder that many people are by-passing situations such as these and looking elsewhere. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:13 am Post subject: |
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I agree in so far as I won't share an apartment with a total stranger ever again- I've had too many bad experiences (and not just in Korea either).
I'm sure for some employers it is a matter of saving money and packing teachers together like cattle to reduce costs, but for others I'm sure that it's a cultural thing- I'd be willing to bet that most Koreans don't truly 'get' the concept of wanting to live alone; It's a relatively alien concept. You live with your family until you get married; If you go away to school/military you are housed in together in barracks/dorms.
That North Americans desire so much 'personal space' and 'alone time' is found to be wierd by many other cultures/countries. North Americans are considered to be very 'distant' and 'cold' by a great by many people around the world; A Korean might say we are lacking in 'skinship'. When I lived in South America I was considered to be borderline-suicidal if all I wanted to do was spend the day alone in the shade of a tree reading a good book- people thought there was something terribly wrong with that.... |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Are a lot of places still doing that shared accomodation thing? It's been awhile since I've done it with anyone other than my wife.
I am glad I did it my first year here, but I felt sorry for the guy who I had to share with, as he was promised his own place and got screwed over. However he helped me quite a lot into fitting in and seeing how good Korea is. I bet if it wasn't for him I might not have stayed after the first year.
Now about turning down kickass jobs...um is there a reason you couldn't have gotten your own one room officetel or studio? |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Location: Here or on the International Job Forums
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:40 pm Post subject: Not Bad |
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Bulsajo wrote:
"I'm sure for some employers it is a matter of saving money and packing teachers together like cattle to reduce costs,..."
Mr. Kalgukshi now writes: Not a bad description. I reduce it to, "warehousing." I do like the "cattle part," though.
Bulsajo also wrote: "A Korean might say we are lacking in 'skinship'."
Mr. Kalgukshi now writes: And only another Korean (or a comparatively few other brave souls who happened to experience the ROK) would have the faintest idea what he or she was saying in what sounds remotely like English.  |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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To the Koreans, it is a matter of herding to save costs in part. But they do have the attitude that its a social obligation, a duty that westerners dislike because they are "selfish". Sharing with other people is normal to them, a hangover from their years of poverty when whole families crammed together into shoeboxes like sardines.
Sharing accom- I loathe it. You really grow out of it after about the age of 21.... even backpacking and staying in crowded youth hostels is a daunting prrospect to me now. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:02 am Post subject: |
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I don't like it much myself, but luckily I met my best friend in Korea that way. |
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ratslash

Joined: 08 May 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:00 am Post subject: |
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i've heard of a shared apartment, but a dormitory is a new one on me? |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:14 am Post subject: |
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After this contract i will never do it again. |
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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ratslash wrote: |
i've heard of a shared apartment, but a dormitory is a new one on me? |
I interviewed at a school that offered dormitory housing in the same building as the school. It was a brand new school with maybe five or six 8 by 10 foot bedrooms for their teachers and a shared kitchen. No lounge/living room that I could see, but then again, I didn't ask.
This alone was crappy enough to be a deal breaker for me, but the other conditions were so singularly craptastic that I had absolutely no reason to sign on there.
After I saw the housing, I spent the remainder of my interview trying to convince the kyopo teacher, who lived in this housing (the only one so far) and had been in Korea for only a few weeks, that he should start looking for a better job. |
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