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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: Bush approval rating lower than Nixon's after Watergate |
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Bush leaving office more unpopular than NixonStory Highlights
Over three-quarters, 76 percent, disapprove of President Bush
Bush approval rating is lower than President Nixon's after Watergate
Majority, 57 percent, believe transition to President Obama will be relatively easy
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By Paul Steinhauser
CNN Deputy Political Director
WASHINGTON DC (CNN) -- On the day that President-elect Barack Obama is visiting the White House, a new national poll suggests that the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is the most unpopular president since approval ratings were first sought more than six decades ago.
President Bush has the lowest presidential approval rating in the history of such polling.
Seventy-six percent of those questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday disapprove of how President Bush is handling his job.
That's an all-time high in CNN polling and in Gallup polling dating back to World War II.
"No other president's disapproval rating has gone higher than 70 percent. Bush has managed to do that three times so far this year," says CNN polling director Keating Holland. "That means that Bush is now more unpopular than Richard Nixon was when he resigned from office during Watergate with a 66 percent disapproval rating."
Before Bush, the record holder for presidential disapproval was Harry Truman, with a 67 percent disapproval rating in January of 1952, his last full year in office.
As Obama visits the White House to start the transition from the Bush administration to an Obama administration, 57 percent of those questioned think the transfer of power will be relatively easy and free from tension, with 39 percent saying the transition will be difficult. Watch what Bush and Obama may talk about �
"A majority say that the transition from Bush to Obama will go smoothly, although nearly one in four predict a lot of tension between Bush aides and Obama aides in the next few weeks. That sentiment is highest among Democrats, but even among them, a majority believes that the transition will be relatively easy," Holland said. Watch Obama's ambitious agenda �
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted Thursday through Sunday with 1,246 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
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On the other hand
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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During the ongoing lame-duck season, when the president tends to stay out of public discussion, I think I had sorta forgotten how unpopular Bush had become.
Then of course came the election results. |
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Gopher

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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That is right.
How is the Democratic Congress doing these days, while we are talking about approval ratings...? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
That is right.
How is the Democratic Congress doing these days, while we are talking about approval ratings...? |
Well, according to Wiki...
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The Democratic Party, which won a majority of seats in the 2006 election, expanded its control in 2008. The Republican Party, hoping to regain the majority it lost in the 2006 or at least expand its congressional membership, lost additional seats. |
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The current composition of the Senate, going into the 2008 election, consists of 49 Republicans, 49 Democrats, and two independents (Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who both caucus with Democrats). Of the seats up for election in 2008, 23 are held by Republicans and 12 by Democrats. The Democratic strategy envisions reaching a filibuster-proof majority of 60 in the Senate. Currently, a 57-majority is sure, with three races too close to call.
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Here's what you have to remember. As far as elections go, it doesn't really matter what people think of the House or the Senate, since people don't vote for "a House" or "a Senate", the way they vote for a president. They vote for individual Congressmen or Senators. And if a majority of the people like the Democrat running in their own district or state, that's good news for the Democratic Party, regardless of what people think of the Congress as a whole.
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Gopher

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Spin.
H. Reid and N. Pelosi's Congress's approval rating stands at approximately ten percent. That is a dismal number, On the Other Hand. |
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On the other hand
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: |
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H. Reid and N. Pelosi's Congress's approval rating stands at approximately ten percent. That is a dismal number, On the Other Hand. |
Is that their approval rating among their constituents, or among the general public? If it's among the latter, it probably doesn't really matter, since Reid and Pelosi don't get voted in by the general public.
I'm moving my addendum from above down here...
(I think my comments would apply best to American politics, where congressmen are more at liberty to vote as individuals. Less so in the British system, where parties tend to crack the whip more in votes, and in some cases a losing vote can bring down the government. In Canada, therefore, most people who vote for a particular MP do so because they like the party, or at least the party leader. I don't think most people think of themeselves as voting for the individual MP.) |
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Gopher

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: |
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If the President feels bad about the nation's opinion of him -- a meager 25% of those surveyed in a June Gallup poll approve of Bush's performance -- all he needs to do is pick up that same poll and keep reading. According to Gallup, just 14% of people express confidence in the current Congress. That's the lowest measure in the 34 years Gallup has been tracking government institutions.
Given that the Democrats took control of Congress just six months ago -- surfing into power, in part, on a wave of dissatisfaction with Republicans -- it's worth asking: how on earth did this Congress become so loathed so quickly...? |
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Recent polls show that 86% of people in this district feel "worse off" then they did two years ago and according to a recent California Field Poll, Pelosi has only a 32% approval rating here in San Francisco... |
Cindy for Congress!
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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One more thing, Gopher...
If my analysis is incorrect, and public discontent with the Democratic Congress really does have significance, why did the Dems increase their control of congress last week? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
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If the President feels bad about the nation's opinion of him -- a meager 25% of those surveyed in a June Gallup poll approve of Bush's performance -- all he needs to do is pick up that same poll and keep reading. According to Gallup, just 14% of people express confidence in the current Congress. That's the lowest measure in the 34 years Gallup has been tracking government institutions.
Given that the Democrats took control of Congress just six months ago -- surfing into power, in part, on a wave of dissatisfaction with Republicans -- it's worth asking: how on earth did this Congress become so loathed so quickly...? |
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Again, Gopher, I'm not denying that public discontent with Congress as a whole is a reality. All I'm saying is that it has no electoral significance, since people don't vote for congress as a whole.
And I notice that Time article was published more than a year before last week's election. I wonder if the writer's would still argue that the public was unhappy with Democratic control of Congress. |
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Gopher

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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The approval rating has fallen since then. It seems to continue to fall.
Congress did not win any points in its handling of the financial crisis last month, either. I am talking about the pork. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
...why did the Dems increase their control of [C]ongress last week? |
I do not know. But, since we are talking national perceptions and approval ratings, let us not leave out the Supreme Court as a probable contributing factor. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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according to a recent California Field Poll, Pelosi has only a 32% approval rating here in San Francisco... |
According to Wikipedia, Pelosi got 72% of the vote last week. Whatever her approval rating was in San Franciso on October 25th, the real relevant question to ask would have been "Who are you planning to vote for on November 4th?" |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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And, for at least some of that, the flipside, On the Other Hand: "who were you planning on voting against...?" Or "is it not nice that our representative is the Speaker and should we not keep her there, no matter how we feel about her performance?"
Those, too, influence voter decision-making. |
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Kuros
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
Spin.
H. Reid and N. Pelosi's Congress's approval rating stands at approximately ten percent. That is a dismal number, On the Other Hand. |
A President's approval rating is not spin. He's a horrible President and everyone knows it. Citing a low Congressional approval rating to justify a sitting President's horrible approval rating is spin, however.
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According to Wikipedia, Pelosi got 72% of the vote last week. |
And this too is apples and oranges. Whether Pelosi is popular in her district or throughout the nation are two different questions.
Count me as one who is more disapproving of SCOTUS' performance. All three branches suck, suck, suck right now. |
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Gopher

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Kuros wrote: |
A President's approval rating is not spin. He's a horrible President and everyone knows it. Citing a low Congressional approval rating to justify a sitting President's horrible approval rating is spin, however. |
Congratulations on spinning my point into something different than my articulation. I am no friend of W. Bush. Never voted for him in any election. And I am looking forward to his retirement this January.
We are at a low-approval rating moment in American political history, Kuros. More than just W. Bush, unfortunately. Please take account of the whole and not merely that part of it which you find most convenient for your politics.
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