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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: Demand for teachers in Korea goes up recently? |
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Has anyone noticed the increase in the number of jobs advertised on this and other sites, lately? Also, jobs in Japan and other places, too...
I think alot of ESL teachers are getting sucked away to China and they just need to advertise more to fill the positions?...
Or, are the Koreans finding more need to learn English lately? |
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bede777
Joined: 26 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| OR.....going out on a limb here, people are leaving and not coming because of the exchange rate. |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, i was thinking i should have explained my question better...
is the increase due to a reduction in supply of English teachers? I guess the exchange rate would fit into that one. So would jobs in China. So would a hyothetical situation in which it was learned that many English teachers are routinely given poisoned kimchi at work....
Or, is the increase due to an increase in demand? Koreans do more international business, now, and believe that English is more important than ever. Korea has become more wealthy recently and they have extra money to spend on English lessons, etc.
As far as the exchange rate specifically goes, I noticed the exchange rate for Japan actualy saw the yen increase quite a bit on the dollar... yet, there still seem to be more jobs being advertised there. My money is still on the growing economy of China and the increase of jobs there hampering supply here... |
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bede777
Joined: 26 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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It's true that the Japanese rate has gotten fat aginst the dollar. However, Japan still has a reputation of being a very expensive place to be. Meaning even if the exchange rate is good it is harder to save money. I'm sure some would argue that is not true, honestly, I really don't know. But the perception is there.
I think demand is probobly the same. I get the feeling the Hagwon is one of the last cuts Korean's will make. I'm sure some differing opinions on that as well. Overall I think there are less people willing to come as result of exchange and compitition from China. Look out if they every let the currency go in China everyone will move. |
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Bigfeet
Joined: 29 May 2008
Location: Grrrrr.....
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Not sure about the supply but pretty sure the demand in SK is going up due to provinces wanting to hire more teachers. |
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Ekaia
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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i4NI
Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| How much should people be asking as starting pay with the exchange rate down? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| How much should people be asking as starting pay with the exchange rate down? |
Don't know, but forecasts have it at 1400 until late 2009, so I'd say 3.0M. You'll never get it, but at least you'll know why Korea seems surprised when it has crap teachers. |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: , |
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i4NI wrote :
How much should people be asking as starting pay with the exchange rate down?
Do you really care?? - I dont |
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Korlingus
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| i4NI wrote: |
| How much should people be asking as starting pay with the exchange rate down? |
Ask for whatever you feel you are worth, but you'll get the same as before the exchange rate changes. You aren't in corporate north america where you could reasonably expect to negotiate a contract based upon your skill set. |
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Louie
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| You aren't in corporate north america where you could reasonably expect to negotiate a contract based upon your skill set. |
....and don't expect to be paid the same as your experienced Korean counterpart. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| What i don't understand is if the demand for teachers are going up why are the salaries, terms and contracts getting shittier? I barely see jobs hit the 2.5 mark and those are way out in the country. Most are like 2.0 - 2.3 |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| red_devil wrote: |
| What i don't understand is if the demand for teachers are going up why are the salaries, terms and contracts getting shittier? I barely see jobs hit the 2.5 mark and those are way out in the country. Most are like 2.0 - 2.3 |
When teachers stop taking these jobs, the salaries will go up. Unless there's some other economic variable going on here that's going right over my head. |
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BRcouple
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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Korlingus
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Demand will go up and pay will remain the same. |
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