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drkalbi

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: Obama win triggers run on guns in many stores |
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Sales of rifles, pistols and ammo are surging in parts of the United States, as many gun owners fear President-elect Barack Obama's administration may seek to tighten ownership of certain weapons.
"The day after the election, I had many more calls than usual from people looking for semi-automatic rifles," said David Greenberg, the owner of the Second Amendment Family Gun Shop, in Bisbee, Arizona, who sold out of AR-15 rifles in recent days.
"There seems to be a fear they will be banned, and it's fairly likely," he added. "Obama and Biden are driven to eliminate firearms from the face of the country."
Gun stores and trade groups have reported a spike in firearms sales in the run-up to the November 4 election victory of Democrat Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden, who many perceive as strongly pro-gun control.
The National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association for the shooting, hunting and firearms industry, reported a 10 percent jump in gun sales this year based on its analysis of an excise tax placed on firearms and ammunition, and a spokesman said the increase had grown dramatically ahead of the election.
"Gun owners are afraid of what Obama is going to do as far as guns," said spokesman Tony Aeschliman. "He has a clear record of being against us."
Obama stated his support for the right to bear arms during campaigning, although both he and Biden back a permanent ban on assault weapons -- military style semi-automatic rifles -- and "common sense measures" to keep guns away from children and criminals, positions which spurred concern among some gun enthusiasts.
"It's always been the liberal or Democratic agenda to restrict gun ownership," said Jim Pruett, the owner of a gun store in a Houston-area strip mall, whose sales more than tripled on the Saturday before the election to $35,000.
In McPherson, Kansas, gun dealer Steve Sechler said demand at a gun show last weekend jumped by more than 50 percent as buyers rushed to stock up on guns including Kalashnikov and AR-15 rifles.
"Most of the people there were cussing Obama and saying we need home defense," Sechler said.
BUSINESS BOOMING
Obama loyalists say gun owners need not fear curbs when he takes office in January. The Democratic governor of Ohio, Ted Strickland, told a rally last month he had spoken directly to Obama about the right to bear arms.
"If you are a sportsman, if you are a gun owner, if you are someone that honors and respects the Second Amendment, you have nothing to fear from Barack Obama," he told a crowd in Chillicothe.
The lobbying arm of the powerful National Rifle Association, however, stoked concerns during the campaign, calling Obama a "serious threat to Second Amendment liberties."
Among other complaints, they accused Obama of endorsing a 500-percent increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition -- a comment he made as an Illinois state Senator in Illinois in 1999, but has not repeated.
The sentiments are so strong Wall Street is taking notice. BB&T Capital Markets analyst Frank Mitsch on Wednesday raised estimates for Olin Corp due in part to expected increased sales from its Winchester firearms ammunition business.
But despite surging sales, not all gun dealers are celebrating.
Scottsdale, Arizona, gun shop owner Manuel Chee sold out of AR-15 type rifles in the days on either side of the election, but said he would prefer to have steady sales and no prospect of curbs -- whether real or imagined -- in the future.
"I'd rather that (Republican Sen. John) McCain got in and there's not a big scare and we just followed our normal sales," Chee told Reuters.
"Rather than say right now we are going to make a lot of money for a few months, and then in a few months, possibly, our business could be shut down," he added.
(With additional reporting from Chris Baltimore in Houston, Carey Gillam in Kansas and David Schwartz in Phoenix, editing by Philip Barbara) |
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Cheonmunka

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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it sucks. I really, really need my M-16. What would I do without it??? Some people just don't like Liberty, Maaaan. |
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SHANE02

Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Redneck panic. Can't you just get a gun on the street anyway? |
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Jeff's Cigarettes

Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have to say I agree w/ much of the above article. The right to bear arms full auto or not is a 2nd amendment right (NOT privilege) and I hope this Obamma chap respects this. If not, I predict trouble for the American way of life. |
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff's Cigarettes wrote: |
I'd have to say I agree w/ much of the above article. The right to bear arms full auto or not is a 2nd amendment right (NOT privilege) and I hope this Obamma chap respects this. If not, I predict trouble for the American way of life. |
The American way of life is not to own weapons and the constitution says nothing of full automated assault rifles. The right to take up and bare arms has to do with the possibility to the British trying to re-take the colonies. It can also be interpreted as you have the right to have a means of self protection... I knife or a baseball bat does the same trick. As I said, it is not a way of life to own a gun. I fail to see how Obama doing anything to people who own firearms will do anything to the American way of life. The Canadian Government tried a national gun registry program and it failed... we have the right to bare arms but it didn't effect our way of life.
In the immortal words of Chris Rock, "we don't need more gun control we need some bullet control." I don't see why people would buy more guns because of Obama. (It's spelled with 1 m) I'm thinking it's a spurious correlation and the sale of guns has more to do with the economy being shot to shit and people being more tempted to TAKE what isn't theirs cause they don't have the money to buy it.
I think America; and more specifically the redneck population for America is more in danger than the average person because the redneck population doesn't tend to think outside the box when it comes to protection of ones assets. That's the part of the American way of life that may be in danger.
Did anyone ever think that what is threatening the "AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE" is the fire-arms that are so proudly brandished in the name of the second amendment. I mean, if you have to worry about someone shooting you in a country where you are supposed to be free to do, think and act as you please (as long as it doesn't contradict the laws set in place to protect the people) isn't that counter intuitive? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I guess we should get ready for a spike in gun deaths. People are morons. What are they gonna do with all those guns? |
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
I guess we should get ready for a spike in gun deaths. People are morons. What are they gonna do with all those guns? |
Well you can only use 2 at a time |
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SeoulFinn

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Location: 1h from Seoul
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Are they going to ban assault shotguns too? Those are so suitable for duck hunting. Just like AR-15 and AKs are for hunting moose. Right to arm bears... D'oh! |
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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SeoulFinn wrote: |
Are they going to ban assault shotguns too? Those are so suitable for duck hunting. Just like AR-15 and AKs are for hunting moose. Right to arm bears... D'oh! |
Why do you need an assault shotgun for duck hunting? Sort of takes the sort of the activity out of it I think. It'd be just as sporting to run an electric current through the water and zap the feathers off the ducks. Also, while moose, and bears are bigger game... any hunter will try to kill the animal by shooting it somewhere where it will die quickly. One shot kills are the best. You don't want 100rpm weapons going off, missing the animal 50+/100 rounds and tagging the deer/moose/bear what have you with so much buckshot or stray ammo that it'll be impossible to do anything but find the led in your meal, and run the risk of friendly firing another hunter. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
I guess we should get ready for a spike in gun deaths. People are morons. What are they gonna do with all those guns? |
Simple. Right now you buy an AK-47 for $350. If Obama and Dems in Congress put together another Assault Weapons Ban, then all guns manufactured/Sold BEFORE the ban are still legal.
Meaning you can offload that $350 AK-47 to someone else for $800-$1000.
There is nothing illegal about private owners selling a gun to another private owner.
Another reason an Assault Weapons Ban would be completely useless. Gun ownership would've already be grandfathered in. |
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ChopChaeJoe
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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So a few rednecks get rich selling mack-10s to meth heads. For the rest, just a bunch of wasted money they could have put towards education or a genuine asset. Like the guy said above, you can only use 2 at a time. Any more than that and you're blowing your buck.
All of this assuming congress puts together such a ban. On the pracical side, what can you use an AK for? Give me an elephant gun and a .45.
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Well what I meant was you only have 2 hands to hold the weapons so you can only shoot 2 at a time. |
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Day Man
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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The right to take up and bare arms has to do with the possibility to the British trying to re-take the colonies |
This is just what those dastardly brits are waiting for, a tightenig of our gun laws. As soon as we do away with the second amendment BAM! the brits will invade Boston. Is that what you want America? Palin '12! |
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joshuahirtle27

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Day Man wrote: |
This is just what those dastardly brits are waiting for, a tightening of our gun laws. As soon as we do away with the second amendment BAM! the Brits will invade Boston. Is that what you want America? Palin '12! |
Yeah that's probably what will happen
Probably more likely the queen well decide to annex one of the commonwealth countries. |
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pkang0202

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
For the rest, just a bunch of wasted money they could have put towards education or a genuine asset. |
Like Cars or Computers or other electronics that Devalue faster than you can say "Depreciation"?
Guns are a solid investment. They are also collectors items. You have a distorted perception that people that own guns sit at home holding the gun just waiting for someone to break in.
Do you have objections against people who collect medieval weapons and Samurai swords?
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Its people like YOU who would blame firearms for someone's death, than blame the actual PERSON.
More people die from Traffic accidents than guns. Why don't you tell people to stop buying cars and put that money to better use?
Alcohol is responsible for more deaths than firearms, are you for another prohibition? |
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