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Mandinga
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Odd SMOE question.. |
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Should one be cautious in taking a job with SMOE at this time of year? When a position has come open because the previous teacher jumped ship should I be worried that I will want to jump as well?
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes. |
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Mandinga
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| and what scenarios might be happening there to make them leave? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandinga wrote: |
| and what scenarios might be happening there to make them leave? |
Too many. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Are you in a rare case where you know the school you would work at and be hired at a strange time of the year simply to fill the empty space?
Otherwise, SMOE is a crapshoot on where you get placed. |
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| Mandinga wrote: |
| and what scenarios might be happening there to make them leave? |
Too many. |
Waaaaaay too many. |
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Mandinga
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
Are you in a rare case where you know the school you would work at and be hired at a strange time of the year simply to fill the empty space?
Otherwise, SMOE is a crapshoot on where you get placed. |
As of right now, no I don't know where I will be placed, but I may be able to find out in a few days. IDK. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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If you can, request to be put in a guest house for the first month and try to find your own housing. Even if they say no, you've started off with a request and a record of it in case you don't like your housing and want to get moved.
Maybe. Maybe they won't give a sh!t. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Some Native Teachers here aren't worthy of much. The previous Teacher may have left simply because he/she couldn't stand it/take it any more. That doesn't mean you couldn't. What kind of spine do you have? Go for it, but don't blame me if the school S***S. I think I work at a pretty good place but I could complain about this/that, but you'd get that at any school. |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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You should take the position but only if you will get the privileges of a full year contract. For instance if you start now and your contract ends in August that will be 9 months of work but you can get 21 days vacation time, a round trip ticket and 300,000 settlement fee. If they try to give you less, forget about it.
I filled a position for a runner and will be signing my third contract with SMOE as will a close friend of mine. |
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Mandinga
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Faunaki wrote: |
| I filled a position for a runner and will be signing my third contract with SMOE as will a close friend of mine. |
I think they do give the full benefits, the same standard contract everyone else gets. Except, I was under the assumption that most get paid back for airfare, in this case it is pre-paid |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| buymybook wrote: |
| Some Native Teachers here aren't worthy of much. The previous Teacher may have left simply because he/she couldn't stand it/take it any more. |
I read this more as "some native teachers got tired of being treated like a less-than-human, unqualified idiot while they had more education and EFL ability than the rest of the school staff. They decided the day-to-day efforts to improve the program and then being met with hostility, jealousy and contempt are simply not worth it, especially with the state of the Korean economy." |
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Mandinga
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
If you can, request to be put in a guest house for the first month and try to find your own housing. Even if they say no, you've started off with a request and a record of it in case you don't like your housing and want to get moved.
Maybe. Maybe they won't give a sh!t. |
They only give a 500,000 Won allowance for housing, is that enough to find a decent place? Is this much better than the provided? |
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LOVYDOVY
Joined: 18 Jul 2007
Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ask for a homestay, so if there is any problem or if you find a better place, you could leave without them taking 500,000 out of your paycheck and you are not stuck there.
I wish I figured that out at the beginning. I wish someone had asked this question before I signed a contract with SMOE and kjelly80 would have answered it.
My place was a prison, not enough place for everything they had to provide as listed in contract and there was no window. Too many problems with the place. |
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Mandinga
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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ok, what exactly is a homestay? |
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