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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: Not proud of your nationality statistics ! wow |
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_not_pro_of_the_nat-lifestyle-not-proud-their-nationality
check out these stats, pretty crazy eh!
the old Germans and Japanese hate themselves the most I guess, probably ashamed of their pasts (axis wwII)
seems kind of weird to see the Scandinavian countries up there, they have the best of everything, guess its too good for them. whats theyre deal!? theyre the envy of the world.
are you surprised to see America at the top of list ? I guess they still believe their country is good at something ^^ jk
interesting never the less |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if this list would correlate with other lists regarding education standards or standard of living.
I'd guess that countries with betters standards of living and/or education standards would be less nationalistic.
edit: this list is 'not proud of their nationality' which probably changes that. Not proud is probably different from not being nationalistic. |
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blissfullyignorant
Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: the ROK
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm American and I'm proud. I've actually been shocked by the number of people that I've met here that aren't proud of where they come from, and the number of people that completely bash their countries. It's a shame. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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blissfullyignorant wrote: |
the number of people that completely bash their countries. It's a shame. |
Yes and no. Bashing countries could be seen as a such, but in general nationalism is fucked up and the sooner it disappears from the world the better. |
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blissfullyignorant
Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: the ROK
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't say anything about Nationalism. I just think it's a shame that they aren't proud of where they came from. I'm not saying disrespect other countries and their way of life. I'm saying if you don't have respect for where you come from, then who will? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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blissfullyignorant wrote: |
I'm saying if you don't have respect for where you come from, then who will? |
Respect, pride, nationalism -- they all get lumped together in discussions like these.
Respect -- sure
Pride -- no
Nationalism -- *beep* me |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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the_beaver wrote: |
blissfullyignorant wrote: |
I'm saying if you don't have respect for where you come from, then who will? |
Respect, pride, nationalism -- they all get lumped together in discussions like these.
Respect -- sure
Pride -- no
Nationalism -- *beep* me |
Ye, I second this. A bit of pride is okay but when it turns into blind nationalism and people cannot reflect critically on issues in their own country, well. . .it's a bit of a worry.  |
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Rebound
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Surely that survey must not include every country in the world.. there must be more countries with people whose percentages are not proud of thier nationalities that are higher than 20% than only 4... I wonder where Korea fits in, actually... Or what about countries in Africa such as Ethiopia or Congo? Brazil? |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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blissfullyignorant wrote: |
I didn't say anything about Nationalism. I just think it's a shame that they aren't proud of where they came from. I'm not saying disrespect other countries and their way of life. I'm saying if you don't have respect for where you come from, then who will? |
your name says it all. just suck up that american conditioning. |
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Kimbop

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Notice how countries with the lowest birth rates on earth are at the top of the list. Countries with a strong sense of cultural pride tend to reproduce more freely. (South Korea's an exception) |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I'd consider myself a patriot, but nothing pisses me off more than seeing people from my countries advertising their nationality and being knobs about it, which happens a lot here. |
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Rae

Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Not proud of your nationality statistics ! wow |
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sharkey wrote: |
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_not_pro_of_the_nat-lifestyle-not-proud-their-nationality
seems kind of weird to see the Scandinavian countries up there, they have the best of everything, guess its too good for them. whats theyre deal!? theyre the envy of the world. |
I'm about to move to Scandinavia and found it interesting how they like to make fun of themselves. For instance, in Sweden, if someone comments on another by saying he's being "too Swedish" - it means a negative thing. They also have something called Jante Law. It's basically an unwritten law that Scandinavians live by. (Note: This law is NOT directed towards foreigners, it's directed toward each other!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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The post-modern rule: Its okay to bash other peoples' countries, but do not be proud of your own country. Because being proud of your own country may indicate that you want to put discrete and insular minorities in gas chambers or fiery ovens.
What a silly time we live in. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
I'd consider myself a patriot, but nothing pisses me off more than seeing people from my countries advertising their nationality and being knobs about it, which happens a lot here. |
We need more pure white Skinheads oi oi oi. But not the ones who mix the blood. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Kuros wrote: |
The post-modern rule: Its okay to bash other peoples' countries, but do not be proud of your own country. Because being proud of your own country may indicate that you want to put discrete and insular minorities in gas chambers or fiery ovens.
What a silly time we live in. |
What if you just want people who insist on implementing Sharia law deported |
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