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withnail



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Job Related Discussion? Reply with quote

I've been thinking that there's an amazing resource of teachers out there - how much could we all learn from each other if we share teaching tips, useful activities? Let's raise the tone here a little!

Of course we need to ask practical questions about bosses and contracts and vent injustices etc but why don't we help each other out a little with stuff to do in the classroom?

Let's not flame each other or attack each other but get into a real discussion about how to improve our game and be better teachers.

Newbies - if you ask korussian, he'll tell you how to effectively search the site so you don't need to ask the same stuff all over again; if you read PRagic's posts, you'll learn about universities; if you look at ttompatz's posts, you'll learn about contracts; kpprok can help you out with tech issues. midnightrunner (check out that brilliant website) can teach you about ma courses and yu bum suk can tell you about the pitfalls of hagwons. Want to know from a head teacher's pov - there's polonius. About career progression - bippitybop...YOU CAN AVOID ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AGAIN IF YOU WANT

I've recently learned how to search this site properly (thanks korussian) so we don't have to annoy vets.

Come on, post up here your helpful posts. Don't just post one or two lines or just reply to others! Give us something interesting to read!

Yes, by all means vigorously attack the ideas and opinions but YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT ACCUSING THE OTHER GUY OF BEING AN IDIOT OR IMPLYING THAT!!!

I've had a blast reading your posts, guys. So many smart, sharp graduates with a lot to give...come on!!!


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withnail



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump it up.
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

by midnightrunner i assume you mean bassexpander...
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the mention, withnail.

Here are the options for how to search Dave's ESL Cafe effectively using my Custom Google search.

You can just bookmark the link I provide inside of the post referenced above, or get fancy and install the Greasemonkey userscript also provided in the same post to modify the behavior of the "Search" button on Dave's ESL Cafe to actually point you to the custom Google Search.

As an update to the script, I also made it so the Greasemonkey script modifies the Dave's banner, and turns it into Search link as well.

Happy Searching!
http://www.dmitryvolokhov.com
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Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great search engine.
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woodstock



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Please post a lesson plan! Reply with quote

I've been reading your posts today and would like to see an example of what you would consider to be a solid lesson plan. I'm relatively new to teaching ESL and have found your comments through most of your posts to be on the money.

A little background, I currently teach at a Middle School and have found it challenging to keep the motivation up at times with some 40 plus students to teach. I have the freedom to plan my own lessons and have used numerous resources over the year to do so. My classes run 45 minutes.

Thanks in advance.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add duebels is the person to get free PPT and online games
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withnail



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump.
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Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump.
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Gusss



Joined: 08 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres an example of lesson plan content, its probably not going to show up right in the post for the timing bit, but it will give you an idea. I rarely do them like this though......


Class Profile

Entry one

Arabic speakers from North Africa and the Middle East.

Age range : 25 � 50

Sex : All female


Outcomes (Grammatical, Phonological, Functional, Lexical or Skills � at least two)


Grammatical : Learners will learn to use the infinitive and conjugates of the verbs �to have� and �to want� with other verb infinitives and nouns.

Functional : With these verb skills they will have the tools to be able to ask for things they want, say what they need to buy, to do. These basic tools have a broad range of practical applications.

Phonological : Learners will learn to correctly pronounce the conjugates of the verbs to have and to want.
Type of lesson

Grammatical, Pragmatic.
Anticipated Problems :

Students may be confused between the �to� in the infinitive (e.g. to go) and �to� in its directional sense. I will explain the difference.

Students may find it difficult to understand the difference between �to have� possessive� and �to have� obligation. I will illustrate the difference with examples. Students may not have sufficient English to understand the explanations.

I will start by explaining the most basic building blocks of the concepts involved.

Key Structures (examples only):

I have to go now

I want to have a car

Excuse me, have you got these jeans in red ?
Key Vocabulary(examples only):

To Have, To want, To do , To make, To go, To come,To be, to, a,, some, the, her, his, on,about

Conjugates of to have and to want
Materials:

Handout, laminated cards, CD.



Timing Teacher Activity Student Activity Assessment Materials
10 � 20 mins




5 - 10 mins



5 mins
..... this bit didnt come out right on the forum but its basically what happens when, for hol long for and what materials are used.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

Gusss wrrote :

lesson plan content


don't bother in South Korea IMO
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Job Related Discussion? Reply with quote

withnail wrote:
I've been thinking...
Of course we need to ask practical questions about bosses and contracts and vent injustices etc but why don't we help each other out a little with stuff to do in the classroom?

Let's not flame each other or attack each other but get into a real discussion about how to improve our game and be better teachers.

Newbies - if you ask korussian, he'll tell you how to effectively search the site so you don't need to ask the same stuff all over again; if you read PRagic's posts, you'll learn about universities; if you look at ttompatz's posts, you'll learn about contracts; kpprok can help you out with tech issues. midnightrunner (check out that brilliant website) can teach you about ma courses and yu bum suk can tell you about the pitfalls of hagwons. Want to know from a head teacher's pov - there's polonius. About career progression - bippitybop...

I've had a blast reading your posts, guys. So many smart, sharp graduates with a lot to give...

Has Your K-Boss Ever Screwed You Out Of Money?
Yes: 75% [47]
No: 24% [15]
Total Votes: 62
poll started by endo on July 23, 2008
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=129843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Late pay... worth the wait?
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=37989

Poll: Have you been paid late in Korea?
Never - I must be lucky! 32% [ 48 ]
Once or twice - no big deal, minor annoyance.. 21% [ 31 ]
Several times - hate it! 20% [ 30 ]
Several times - but I understand the culture, doesn't bother me... 4% [ 7 ]
Many times - sigh... 16% [ 24 ]
WTF! I've never been paid on time! ARGH!!! 4% [ 7 ]
Total Votes: 147
From the Job Discussion Board, last post seen on Aug 16, 2007
the thread or topic was deleted or moved
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=18732

Foreign Scholars Merit Equal Status
The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
JoongAng Daily (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1904927
Quote:
they [foreign professors] tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc....

According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect....


Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448

Discrimination Persists as Foreign Population Grows
By Kim Soe-jung, JoongAng Daily (September 3, 2007)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2880037

Foreign Residents Face Discrimination
In Riding Subways, Opening Web Sites, and Getting License
By Kim Tae-jong, The Korea Times (May 31, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/05/113_3819.html

Banks Cite Non-existent Law on Expat Cards
By Kim Soe-jung and Park Yeon-soo, JoongAng Daily (January 28, 2008)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2885625

UN Concern at 'Ethnocentric' Korea
Chosun Ilbo (August 20, 2007)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200708/200708200011.html

Most Foreign Firms Find Korea Less Than Friendly
Cho Hyeong-rae, Chosun Ilbo (April 24, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200504/200504240010.html

Are the salary and benefits of Korean teachers sometimes late or denied?

Teachers' salaries -- From The Economist (Sep 27th 2007)
http://www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9867632
Quote:
Teaching in Turkey and South Korea has a very high status, with earnings more than double the average income per head....

image link: http://media.economist.com/images/20070929/CIN080.gif

For Korea, the ratio of teacher's salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita is 2.33.
Source: What are teacher salaries? Education at a Glance 2007, OECD
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/36/1/39290909.xls

Teacher Labor Markets in Developed Countries
The Future of Children
http://www.futureofchildren.org/information2850/information_show.htm?doc_id=470797
image link: http://www.futureofchildren.org/doc_img/470797.gif

How transparent is your school or university? Do you know all the allowances and benefits paid to full-time teachers? Do you even know who to ask or where to look for information on benefits and allowances?

Transparency International Says Korea's Corruption Worsens
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (September 26, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/09/117_10820.html

A society awash in scandal
Corruption is common in South Korea, where competition is ruthless and success means all
Bruce Wallace, Los Angeles Times via Toronto Star (December 07, 2007)
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/283425

Deception Sums Up Year of 2007
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (December 23, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/12/117_16011.html


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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Job Related Discussion? Reply with quote

withnail wrote:

Come on, post up here your helpful posts.


I'm with you on this venture, BUT where are your links? You have probably posted over 15 threads on teaching related issues, but they've all disappeared into the garbage can that is Dave's thread history: out of sight, out of my mind my friend. To make this a usable and sustainable thread, please make it more active!

As for the poster asking about lesson planning:

check this site, and this one

A good lesson plan is one that considers the students' POVs and also has a method/structure for enabling the goal. Your goal may be different then others, but obviously it will deal with some kind of language content. I think first you should take a look at some different types of lesson plans:

These are brief overviews of the concepts and plans. Withnail has plenty of history and info on PPP and this would be a great thread to have it come back into use....HINT HINT... Smile

PPP

ESA

EIF

My Esnips page on lesson planning

I tend to think through the EIF framework but write out a general style template because I take into account REVIEW, and especially at younger levels this is very very important. REVIEW is essential and a great way to vary the classroom content: practice new activities in small portions of time that won't stress the kids or make you rely on a bad activity. Also, if you have low level students, review will be easier and more accessible for them since they've already encountered the material; most likely that will help to motivate them: there will be less fear and intimidation involved.

For motivation, I suggest finding ways to truly incorporate A/V materials, and as such use them for the language introduction. Youtube is all downloadable and easy to get. Make your own authentic videos with some students before class (that will be an endless source of motivation), and especially try to incorporate KOREA! This kids respond to their own very well.

Two other things you might want to take into consideration when planning lessons: models of information processing (bottom up and top down processing, and scaffolding and routines. Do some light research on these and see how they might affect your lesson planning, which will then have a direct affect on your Ss motivation/participation levels.

EDIT: Typos
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, you mean you want to conduct... Job Related Discussion... in the Job Related Discussion Forum? BLASPHEMY!
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