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fj007
Joined: 21 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:55 am Post subject: almost done...getting screwed |
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hey all,
I'm 2 weeks away from finishing my contract and i'm being screwed by my director in the following ways:
1. they refuse to pay for my ticket home at the end of my 1 yr contract. they claim that b/c i was hired in korea, they paid for my japan visa run ticket, and that nulls my return ticket home. this was not mentioned when we went over the contract together last year before we both signed it, nor was it written into the contract.
- i went to the labour board office and they said they can only help w/ salary matters, not "extra" pay like medical/pension/plane tickets etc. so basically they were no help. they suggest i take the school to civil court. (which i have heard can take up to a year to get your case heard in front of a judge).
2. the school never registered me under the pension program since i got hired last year. there is no mention of pension in my contract, but i called the pension office earlier this week, and they told me that it's mandatory, even if it's not in the contract. they are sending someone from the regional office out here next week to check things out.
- i brought this up back in june, and even went to the regional office to protest. they apparently called my director, then she ended up telling me that there is a law where schools can choose not to apply for pension. the director also told me that if i brought it up again i could no longer work there.
bottom line, i'm getting screwed...any advice about my options, besides a long drawn out court battle? also, i need proof of any options available to me, or at least the ability to speak to someone in English about it.
i just hope they pay me my last paycheck and severance pay on the day they promiosed to pay me, my last day. |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Boris the Enforcer will fix ANYTHING for a price, but do you want his number? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:19 am Post subject: Re: almost done...getting screwed |
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fj007 wrote: |
hey all,
I'm 2 weeks away from finishing my contract and i'm being screwed by my director in the following ways:
1. they refuse to pay for my ticket home at the end of my 1 yr contract. they claim that b/c i was hired in korea, they paid for my japan visa run ticket, and that nulls my return ticket home. this was not mentioned when we went over the contract together last year before we both signed it, nor was it written into the contract.
- i went to the labour board office and they said they can only help w/ salary matters, not "extra" pay like medical/pension/plane tickets etc. so basically they were no help. they suggest i take the school to civil court. (which i have heard can take up to a year to get your case heard in front of a judge).
2. the school never registered me under the pension program since i got hired last year. there is no mention of pension in my contract, but i called the pension office earlier this week, and they told me that it's mandatory, even if it's not in the contract. they are sending someone from the regional office out here next week to check things out.
- i brought this up back in june, and even went to the regional office to protest. they apparently called my director, then she ended up telling me that there is a law where schools can choose not to apply for pension. the director also told me that if i brought it up again i could no longer work there.
bottom line, i'm getting screwed...any advice about my options, besides a long drawn out court battle? also, i need proof of any options available to me, or at least the ability to speak to someone in English about it.
i just hope they pay me my last paycheck and severance pay on the day they promiosed to pay me, my last day. |
Your director is a liar. Talk to the pension guy when he comes over there. Inform your director that you will also be visiting the tax office to check and see if your taxes were properly paid. Also tell her that you will be telling all the parents about the laws that this hakwon breaks. Then go home and start packing. Odds are that she will break down and give in (after a bit of bluster.) Or you could wait until the last day, get paid and then tell her this. |
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jadarite

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: |
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If you were hired in Korea, then they didn't have to pay for your flight to Korea. That should have been more expensive than any visa run to Japan. So, it doesn't make any sense. Obviously, they are taking advantage of you. Check your contract, and if it is written in there that they pay for it, then you have a right to that.
Chances are, they won't pay you for your last month. Get ready for it. Hopefully, someone won't confiscate their computer hard drives and cut all the computer cords. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Location: Telluride
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: Re: almost done...getting screwed |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
fj007 wrote: |
hey all,
I'm 2 weeks away from finishing my contract and i'm being screwed by my director in the following ways:
1. they refuse to pay for my ticket home at the end of my 1 yr contract. they claim that b/c i was hired in korea, they paid for my japan visa run ticket, and that nulls my return ticket home. this was not mentioned when we went over the contract together last year before we both signed it, nor was it written into the contract.
- i went to the labour board office and they said they can only help w/ salary matters, not "extra" pay like medical/pension/plane tickets etc. so basically they were no help. they suggest i take the school to civil court. (which i have heard can take up to a year to get your case heard in front of a judge).
2. the school never registered me under the pension program since i got hired last year. there is no mention of pension in my contract, but i called the pension office earlier this week, and they told me that it's mandatory, even if it's not in the contract. they are sending someone from the regional office out here next week to check things out.
- i brought this up back in june, and even went to the regional office to protest. they apparently called my director, then she ended up telling me that there is a law where schools can choose not to apply for pension. the director also told me that if i brought it up again i could no longer work there.
bottom line, i'm getting screwed...any advice about my options, besides a long drawn out court battle? also, i need proof of any options available to me, or at least the ability to speak to someone in English about it.
i just hope they pay me my last paycheck and severance pay on the day they promiosed to pay me, my last day. |
Your director is a liar. Talk to the pension guy when he comes over there. Inform your director that you will also be visiting the tax office to check and see if your taxes were properly paid. Also tell her that you will be telling all the parents about the laws that this hakwon breaks. Then go home and start packing. Odds are that she will break down and give in (after a bit of bluster.) Or you could wait until the last day, get paid and then tell her this. |
I wouldn't say "the odds are she will break down." The OP should have a pretty good idea what might happen. The OP should quitely get phone numbers to students/parents home and possibly e-mail addresses. You could ask/give/share e-mail addressses with them on your last day. Then you could get any decision/document by the labor ministry/court, have it scanned and then e-mail it to them with a little message like "I thought you would be interested in the following information about hagwon they attend..." I don't think that would be defamation because all you are doing is sending an e-mail with information from the government, just don't say anything bad about the hagwon in the e-mail.
When I got cheated, I knew the cheater was going to cheat me and I decided I wasn't going to let him get away with it. I wouldn't suggest that philosophy b/c it wasn't easy, but I wouldn't suggest otherwise either.
A case in civil court would be heard within 3-4 months but may last more than 1 year and then most likely additional time for you to receive money that would hopefully be owed to you(so says the Judge).
Your employer doesn't have to pay pension if they have only 5 full-time employees or less. So, how many do they have? Try to keep your cool and don't egg them on in any way. Don't raise your voice, nor should you tell them any specifics an what you are going to do. Surprise is the best offense. You should call/go to the Seoul Global Center(near City Hall), make an appointment to see Mr. Jung(Mr. Bong-Soo Jung) on a Tuesday afternoon for free. He could contact them for you to work out a deal, ask him to do so.
READ this "sticky" titled "HOW TO LEGALLY...
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=119477 |
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fj007
Joined: 21 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Your employer doesn't have to pay pension if they have only 5 full-time employees or less.
- where is there proof of this...school not having to pay pension. as a canadian, the law as i know it requires me to pay into pension, and for the school to match, regardless of how many employees.
How much is the "fee" for Mr. Jung? what can he say/do to help me specifically? can he take appointments in the morning? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Only 2 weeks before finishing your contract?
Unless you're planning on staying in Korea for several months to fight this problem of yours, sorry to say it but you're SOL.
As for your pension, visit the NPS office. File your pension claim. Pay your share of the pension (4.5% of your total gross income). NPS will collect your employer's share and pay you the lump sum. |
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Chamchiman

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: Digging the Grave
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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fj007 wrote: |
1. they refuse to pay for my ticket home at the end of my 1 yr contract. they claim that b/c i was hired in korea, they paid for my japan visa run ticket, and that nulls my return ticket home. this was not mentioned when we went over the contract together last year before we both signed it, nor was it written into the contract.
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It's a little unclear from your post what exactly is in your contract with respect to a return plane ticket upon contract completion. What does the contract say? If it says something like this:
"Upon completion of the contract, the employer will provide the employee with a one-way ticket on the most direct flight to their hometown."
or something to that effect, how can your boss deny you the homeward ticket? The fact that you were hired in Korea is totally unrelated to the ticket home.
Keep us updated, and good luck. |
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robbyt
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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WRT national pension, I'm pretty sure the "5 employees or less " was an old rule that no longer exists.
Anyways, you probably have to start your fight at the tax office, odds are that your director has you classified as self-employed/independent contractor. That allows him to avoid paying pension/health care as well as other fees such as unemployment insurance, workplace accident insurance and so on. If you are classified as self-employed, the pension office won't help you. Go to the tax office with relevant documents in hand (hopefully you have a contract which says you're and employee and not independent) and try and persuade them to change your status. Then you go to the pension office and straighten things out. Be ready to pay all of the year's contributions (4.5%) AS WELL AS health insurance payments for the entire year. Not sure if they waive the h.ins. since you're at the end of contract, but don't expect it.
In addition, the tax rate for the "self-employed' is 3.3% (instead of around 2.0%) which he *probably* doesn't submit to the tax office and puts in his pocket. I'm also finishing up my contract soon and don't want to get screwed. I've been asking for official government tax receipts for the deductions taken, but the manager keeps on giving excuses and avoiding the issue. Past employees (Korean and foreign) haven't been able to get receipts for their tax deductions either.
Good luck, let us know your outcome. |
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SharkDiver
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Once you are registered for the national health insurance you should automatically be set up for the pension. I had a lying boss at OEDAE in Suwon (is that where you are?) and she tried the same thing. Saying I was self employed. But she enlisted me in the medical insurance and when I saw I was not in the pension scheme the pension office said it was automatic.
When she finally enrolled me she tried to get me to waive the pension scheme saying I would lose money, etc. Then she tried to lie about my start dates. What I did was just contact the pension office and they contacted her and that began the process to straighten it around. She deducted a bunch of back pay for pension and a little for health insurance. But she pocketed this too. But after contacting the pension office again she had to come clean. Well almost.
If you must pay backpay make sure you pay it directly to the office yourself. The pension office said they would only pay out pension money to me that they had already collected. They refused to pay everything out in full and then collect later. Perhaps this depends on the office.
She also refused my airfare home. I couldn't do much. I just waited until I got my final pay and then raised hell. If you raise hell first they may just screw you even worse.
If you stay around for another contract then you'll have the time to take recourse. |
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bobranger
Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Location: masan
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you hired in Korea, the school does not have to pay airfare rule is a bit strange. Think about this scenario: I finish my contract and my visa is over but I spent all my money and have no way to get home.
What would one do? It should be mandatory that the employer must have a ticket before the last day of my contract/e-2 visa. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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fj007 wrote: |
Your employer doesn't have to pay pension if they have only 5 full-time employees or less.
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Where exactly is that stated, I employ three people atm, and I pay taxes and pension and health benefits .... |
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EricaSmile84

Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Gosh that sucks. Why are people so sleezy!? |
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