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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Has anyone ever seen this before? Reply with quote

On Tuesday at my all boys school, a male teacher had a second or third year boy by his desk. When I heard the first "whack", I looked in the little mirror by my monitor. There was one other teacher at the other end of the room.

So, I see him whack the boy on the back of the legs maybe six inches below his butt several times. Then the boy turns slightly and I see that the teacher, with his left hand, has his genitals, or at least his ding dong in a pinch. At that point I turned fully around in my chair and blatantly stared at the teacher. I thought maybe he was only holding the front of his pants to hold him still, but then he "re-gripped" and obviously had some flesh in there.

Yeah, yeah, I know, WTF? I was tempted to bluntly ask him in English rather loudly, "Why are you touching that boys *beep*?" If I see it again I will try to catch it on phone video and post it on youtube. I don't know how to make my phone silent though when it initiates video.

Has anyone ever seen this? It kind of shocked me....perhaps more so because there was no one else around and I don't count as a person (just sayin').
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, it's shocking in the beginning, but you'll get used to it.

i see it almost everyday.
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EzeWong



Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
yeah, it's shocking in the beginning, but you'll get used to it.

i see it almost everyday.


That's a bit messed up.

I thought genitals was against Korean school beating protocols.

Poet, Exactly how hard did he grab. It doesn't make the offense any lighter but I'm just curious.
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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever seen this before? Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
On Tuesday at my all boys school, a male teacher had a second or third year boy by his desk. When I heard the first "whack", I looked in the little mirror by my monitor. There was one other teacher at the other end of the room.

So, I see him whack the boy on the back of the legs maybe six inches below his butt several times. Then the boy turns slightly and I see that the teacher, with his left hand, has his genitals, or at least his ding dong in a pinch. At that point I turned fully around in my chair and blatantly stared at the teacher. I thought maybe he was only holding the front of his pants to hold him still, but then he "re-gripped" and obviously had some flesh in there.

Yeah, yeah, I know, WTF? I was tempted to bluntly ask him in English rather loudly, "Why are you touching that boys *beep*?" If I see it again I will try to catch it on phone video and post it on youtube. I don't know how to make my phone silent though when it initiates video.

Has anyone ever seen this? It kind of shocked me....perhaps more so because there was no one else around and I don't count as a person (just sayin').


You saw this happening and didn't intervene? You were tempted to say something, but you didn't? Dude, what that teacher did was illegal! If I were you, I'd report that incident to the school administration and, if that failed to provoke a response, I would make a report to the regional education office.

Do the right thing and intervene. That teacher is going to do the same thing again.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Are these people savages? Reply with quote

Damn. Are these people savages?

One teacher hits his female students in the face. I'm not talking love taps.
Another will grab his students' penises.
They'll leave their windows and doors open in the winter as though they were raised in barns.
They'll run you over in crosswalks even though you have the green sign.

What the hell else am I going to read about? They use seances to cure diseases? They poke voo-doo dolls when they have a beef with each other?

I used to like this place. Now, I don't know.
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friendoken



Joined: 19 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Are these people savages? Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
Damn. Are these people savages?

One teacher hits his female students in the face. I'm not talking love taps.
Another will grab his students' penises.
They'll leave their windows and doors open in the winter as though they were raised in barns.
They'll run you over in crosswalks even though you have the green sign.

What the hell else am I going to read about? They use seances to cure diseases? They poke voo-doo dolls when they have a beef with each other?

I used to like this place. Now, I don't know.


I understand. You should leave Tobias, before you start accepting these things as normal, or worse, become an apologist.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You saw this happening and didn't intervene? You were tempted to say something, but you didn't? Dude, what that teacher did was illegal! If I were you, I'd report that incident to the school administration and, if that failed to provoke a response, I would make a report to the regional education office.

Do the right thing and intervene. That teacher is going to do the same thing again."



Yes, it was illegal. And so is corporal punishment. What is the enforced penalty for that? Uh huh.

And the school would do exactly what? I thought so.

If I see it again, I will say something. Touching a students genitals is all kinds of wrong.

As far as how hard he gripped, it didn't appear hard at all.

I think putting it on youtube woud be much more effective than reporting it. Video is hard to deny.

Get used to it? Never.

I was just curious if other people had seen this. Apparently so.


Along the same lines, a middle school girl I taught told me about how a previous teacher used to touch her boobs and butt and that while she's glad he stopped (changed schools), she just took it in stride as, "Thats just what happens in school."
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AussieGav



Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF. Yeah not cool. I have never seen anything like that and hope not to. Corporal punishment yeah see it all the time. I dont like it but it is what happens here. But crotch grabbing not cool.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Are these people savages? Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:

What the hell else am I going to read about? They use seances to cure diseases? They poke voo-doo dolls when they have a beef with each other?


At important job interviews a company will usually employ a professional face-reader. If your face is the wrong shape you won't get the job. Some people get plastic surgery not to look more beautiful, but for a better 'face shape' for job interviews.

Some jobs are only open to certain blood types, because of the character traits those blood types represent.

Korean conglomerates employ shamans (무당) from time to time to perform rites(굿) for good fortune and so on.

How do you feel now?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once saw a middle school student talking to a teacher about her bra, and the (female) teacher reached up and felt it from the inside. This teacher has a teenage daughter herself and I guess they both thought that was a perfectly normal thing to do when talking about a bra.

I've seen female teachers slap girls on the bum (with their hand) many times, but never seen a teacher grope a student.

There was a case a year or two ago of an elementary school teacher who gropped a boy's gochu repeatedly in front of his classmates. I believe he got a 4 million won fine. So I guess that's about how seriously society views that sort of thing.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Are these people savages? Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
Tobias wrote:

What the hell else am I going to read about? They use seances to cure diseases? They poke voo-doo dolls when they have a beef with each other?


At important job interviews a company will usually employ a professional face-reader. If your face is the wrong shape you won't get the job. Some people get plastic surgery not to look more beautiful, but for a better 'face shape' for job interviews.

Some jobs are only open to certain blood types, because of the character traits those blood types represent.

Korean conglomerates employ shamans (무당) from time to time to perform rites(굿) for good fortune and so on.

How do you feel now?


Where`s the crystal ball and rabbit feet?
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was once interviewed by an officer from the Gyoung Nam Office of Education.

One of the interview question was, "How do you feel about Korean teachers randering corporal punishing to the students? If you saw it, what would you do?"

I aswered, "Isn't corporal punishment illegal?"
He answered, "Yes, it is. But how would you feel and what would you do about it?"
I answered, "I would let the administration know about it because I don't agree with corporal punishment. Besides, it's illegal so it shouldn't happen."
He then said, "Thank you for your time" and hung up the phone. I never heard from him again.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Are these people savages? Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
Damn. Are these people savages?

One teacher hits his female students in the face. I'm not talking love taps.
Another will grab his students' penises.
They'll leave their windows and doors open in the winter as though they were raised in barns.
They'll run you over in crosswalks even though you have the green sign.

What the hell else am I going to read about? They use seances to cure diseases? They poke voo-doo dolls when they have a beef with each other?

I used to like this place. Now, I don't know.



That's right. They're all a bunch of savages. All 45 million or so of them. Confused
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: This isn't talking me out Reply with quote

friendoken wrote:

I understand. You should leave Tobias, before you start accepting these things as normal, or worse, become an apologist.


It's not these issues that are talking me out of here. They're simply adding to the flames. It's the cold weather, lazy learners, and, of course, the currency problem.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the teacher caught the boy masturbating in class and was trynig to teach the child a lesson.
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