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[Medic]

Don't know the gist of it, but it seems as though the catholics, and other religious groups turned to the Mormons as a last reort to help get the proposition banning same sex marriages passed. Mormons embraced the cause whole heartedly and organized themselves to conduct door to door surveys making residents aware of what was involved. Apparently they were very care full to not cross the boundries of the church being involved in affairs of the state. They were of course involved in affairs of the state, but managed to limit their involvement so as not to conflict with any of their beliefs or ideoligies ( I think)

[mises]

These religious organizations should be taxed similar to other income generating firms. They would then have less to spend on advertising.

[reactionary]

African Americans made it pass too,right?

Honestly I'm from California and I had no opinion regarding Prop 8 (I was more upset about Prop D passing in San Diego).

I just think it's funny that there are these massive rallies AFTER it passed...uh, college kids, why didn't you get out there more before the vote?

The yuppies are getting their first taste of the tyranny of the majority. The people voted, it passed, and that's that. I don't see it as something you can bitch about...propositions are just about the closest thing to direct democracy that we have.

[ernie]

isn't it ironic how people who are (presumably) against discrimination and stereotyping are so quick to resort to scapegoating when things don't go their way?

[CentralCali]

Let me get this straight. You want to penalize a group of people for not breaking the law. Is that the gist of your rant?

FTR: The LDS church itself did not spend a lot of coin on that proposition--something like just under three grand in "in kind" contribution for some travel expenses. Some LDS church members spent their money on this issue. Last I heard, a citizen in a democracy can contribute to the causes he supports no matter what the reason for him supporting that cause is.

[anyangoldboy]

[quote="CentralCali"]Let me get this straight. You want to penalize a group of people for [i]not breaking the law[/i]. Is that the gist of your rant?

FTR: [i]Some[/i] LDS church [i]members[/i] spent their money on this issue. Last I heard, a citizen in a democracy can contribute to the causes he supports no matter what the reason for him supporting that cause is.[/quote]

it's back...centralcali is alive

[bassexpander]

I think that this pretty much proves that "massive rallies" don't equate with overall voter opinion. It's pretty much a given that every gay person who had a ballot to vote on voted to keep their rights.

They lost.

So that means every single person protesting probably had their say and lost, because a lot more people said, "NO."

Don't blame the mormons.

There simply aren't enough people that agree with you. It doesn't mean they are anti-gay. It doesn't mean they are racist of bad. It doesn't mean that they hate gays.

They just don't agree with you.

[CentralCali]

[RACETRAITOR]

They also believe that the Natives were a lost tribe of Israel who were cursed with dark skin by God.

Oh yeah, and that wine, a drink that Jesus himself created out of plain water, is forbidden by God.

And let's not forget how badly Mormonism messes up kids.

Anyway, on the Colbert Report he and Dan Savage said it best: the Mormons are just pissy because they're not allowed to have multiple wives, so they want to ruin marriage for as many others as possible.

[reactionary]

Yet it was the voters that voted for prop 8, not Mormon dollars. And, maybe this is because of my age group, I saw a lot more anti-prop 8 pieces and protests than I saw pro around the internet and on tv.

Hey I'm bitter about Prop D passing. But what can I do? We lost some freedoms, but that's what the voters chose. I'm not going to go appeal to the courts and the legislature saying "waaah! my brother/sister was mean to me....please take care of it mommy!"

I support direct democracy far more than I support gay marriage or any other issue.

[DoubleRS]

Hot topic for sure in my home state. Personally, I was sad to see it pass. I am from San Francisco had have many friends who are homosexual. It was hard for me to hear the sadness in their voice for not getting a right everyone else has. I'm appalled at the decision my fellow californians made. I know many PACs had donations from LDS, Catholic and other Christian Fundamentalist members that were instructed from the Pulpit to do so. According the IRS Tax code, proof of such a thing could revoke tax-exempt status. I hope the prop is declared unconstitutional as it is being appealed to become so currently.

I think much of the advertisements against prop 8, which were funded my Knights of Columbus, PACs, etc., were horrible. Using children as a ploy to play on the fear of having to explain that homosexuals can get married. That is just wrong. Parents need to be actively involved with their child's education and this includes teaching them that homosexuality exists in nearly every species on this planet, mainly in males, and also Humans.

[ernie]

i'd vote to outlaw straight marriage, as well. i believe in equality!

[RACETRAITOR]

[CentralCali]

{Mistyped--corrected version below.}

[CentralCali]