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Big_Bird
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Gopher
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| Where do these two go from here? |
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EzeWong
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| I'd imagine hell |
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patongpanda
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| BAD BOY, BUBBY! |
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caniff
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Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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"..'he did not have a normal mother-child bond."
Apparently not. And what he did sure wouldn't help in that regard. |
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matthews_world
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Can be seen in porn clips all the time. This time they happened to be tracked down.
Nothing wrong with it. Of course, he needs to be legal. 
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samcheokguy
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Sounds likes a winner.
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| "He is a talented athlete but his ability as a sportsman and employment opportunities have been affected by his problems with drugs and alcohol," she said. |
So he's a muscle bound dude who is high and drunk. |
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bacasper
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Creepy yes, but not as much as it appears.
First, he was not raised by his mother so the Westermarck effect, which normally operates to inhibit incest, could not take hold. Family members reared apart often find each other sexually attractive after meeting in adult life.
Then, "the issue of consent was not part of the charges." Intercourse occurred twice, after which the woman got up and went to her room. She did not call the police, and the incident was reported only because she happened to mention it during a routine medical exam the next day. Having been wheelchair-bound for the last seven years with rheumatoid arthritis, the woman may have been fulfilling sexual needs of her own. Indeed, had the male been a minor, she would be the one in jail right now, i.e. this was a sex act between consenting adults.
Finally, the incident may never have occurred were it not for the disinhibiting effect of alcohol as evidenced by his remorse when sober. |
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Big_Bird
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| How do you know it was consenting sex? That consent was not made an issue doesn't mean a thing. She may not have wanted her child charged with rape, even though he had violated her. There are no details of what she did, so your post is pure conjecture. She may very well have been horribly shocked and traumatised. She may have felt it was her fault in some way (a typical reaction of rape victims) doubly so because of her poor mothering. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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The only part of my post which is conjecture is the part about her possibly being sexually unfulfilled. That it occurred twice, and that she went to her room afterward are from the article which nowhere states she called the police. Furthermore, she is above the age of consent. Nowhere does it say she struggled, objected, or attempted to dissuade him. Perhaps she did; there is just no evidence for it yet.
What you have surmised
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| She may have felt it was her fault in some way (a typical reaction of rape victims) doubly so because of her poor mothering. |
is pure conjecture, and not based on anything from the article.
In fact, nowhere except in your post is the word "rape" used, nor was he charged with it, but rather two counts of "having sex with a person knowing that the person was his mother."
So while it may have been de facto incest, it is unlikely it was psychodynamic incest. In any event, it certainly does not appear to have been rape. |
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semphoon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| What a nasty motherfuc..... |
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BS.Dos.
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| He must have been liberal. |
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DCJames
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| bacasper wrote: |
Creepy yes, but not as much as it appears.
First, he was not raised by his mother so the Westermarck effect, which normally operates to inhibit incest, could not take hold. Family members reared apart often find each other sexually attractive after meeting in adult life.
Then, "the issue of consent was not part of the charges." Intercourse occurred twice, after which the woman got up and went to her room. She did not call the police, and the incident was reported only because she happened to mention it during a routine medical exam the next day. Having been wheelchair-bound for the last seven years with rheumatoid arthritis, the woman may have been fulfilling sexual needs of her own. Indeed, had the male been a minor, she would be the one in jail right now, i.e. this was a sex act between consenting adults.
Finally, the incident may never have occurred were it not for the disinhibiting effect of alcohol as evidenced by his remorse when sober. |
You're nuts.
I feel sorry for you. |
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anyangoldboy
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| Can you imagine the mum saying to the son while they are having sex "who's your daddy???" |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| bacasper wrote: |
| The only part of my post which is conjecture is the part about her possibly being sexually unfulfilled. That it occurred twice, and that she went to her room afterward are from the article which nowhere states she called the police. Furthermore, she is above the age of consent. Nowhere does it say she struggled, objected, or attempted to dissuade him. Perhaps she did; there is just no evidence for it yet. |
Christ, you must be so naive! You think that not calling the police precludes it as rape? What planet do yuu live on? Rape is a seriously under-reported crime. Only a fraction of victims go to the police, and some do not approach the police for years after. Among male rape victims, the incidence of report is even lower. Adult male rape victims rarely come forward. You think it's not possible to be raped twice in the same day in the same house? Perhpas she was so stunned she wasn't thinking it was about to happen again. She may have been stunned by what her son had just done, and wondering what the hell had happened, how, why, what to do? Most rape victims aren't experts in rape before their first encounter of it. Secondly, because in that very short news article it doesn't say anything about her struggling, doesn't mean she didn/t. But what if she didn't. Many victims lay there in shock. The feisty rape victim is mostly a thing of the movies. The woman uses a wheelchair and is in frail conditon. So she walked to her room later? You don't know what might have been going on in her head. I've been in some dangerous situations and close calls, and the way I reacted was very surprising. Outwardly calm and compliant, inwardly panicking and frantically calculating my options and looking for my chance to escape. Luckily for me, circumstances went in my favour.
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What you have surmised
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| She may have felt it was her fault in some way (a typical reaction of rape victims) doubly so because of her poor mothering. |
is pure conjecture, and not based on anything from the article. |
Bcasper. Look at the grammatical construction of what I wrote. Go back to your grammer books and check out the word 'may' and see how it can be used.
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In fact, nowhere except in your post is the word "rape" used, nor was he charged with it, but rather two counts of "having sex with a person knowing that the person was his mother." |
Unless he was actually charged and convicted of rape the newspaper is not going to call it rape. That is standard practice.
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| So while it may have been de facto incest, it is unlikely it was psychodynamic incest. In any event, it certainly does not appear to have been rape. |
You do not know if it was rape or not. In fact you have no idea - only fantasy guides you here. |
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