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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: US McDonald's shift manager makes more money than us. |
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| That is just sad. You could flip burgers in the US. Take that money, convert it to won, and you'd be making more than we make. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, but do they get free housing or a housing allowance? If you could even FIND an apartment for $400 a month you'd be shelling out $4,800 of that income. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't shift manager like the jack of all trades of McDonalds?
Flipping, frying, cash registering, taking orders, mopping/sweeping.... have I forget anything else?  |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
| Ah, but do they get free housing or a housing allowance? If you could even FIND an apartment for $400 a month you'd be shelling out $4,800 of that income. |
Do they have to live overseas? |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| No, but they don't have to live in the US either. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I did a little research, and shift managers make about $18,000 which is $1,500 a month. Doing the conversion at current rates, that comes out to about 2.2 mill in Korean won. I can't imagine trying to make ends meet on that little money in the States since I WOULD have to pay for my own housing. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Location: Classified
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
| Ah, but do they get free housing or a housing allowance? If you could even FIND an apartment for $400 a month you'd be shelling out $4,800 of that income. |
Here's the rub. You can't find an apartment for less than, oh, say, $500US per month. Auto insurance and the note itself...well, there's another, say, $400. Untold bucks for utilities and such. The point has been made here many times before. Good savings, when you consider the benefits.
(Benefits being nasty Hagwon owner, manager, students, parents, ajummas sniping at you every chance they get, colored bags for your garbage, xenophobic douchebags hatin', not turning on the heat motherfuckers.)
Weigh out your lot, folks, and may ye be happy. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Time to go back to the job you left behind before coming on over to South Korea, Einsteins. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't forget taxes folks and higher food costs. |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Um, hate to say this cause it makes it sound even worse, but your chances of getting the "shift manager" job at McDonald's is not even a guarantee, considering they may want you to "work your way up" first. While I understand not a lot of Americans pay a whole lot of respect to McJobs, that doesn't mean that everyone gets to start out as the boss when they apply to their local McJobs. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| You have to put in the time as the oilboy or toliet girl before you get the McDonalds tie and jacket... |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| sarbonn wrote: |
| Um, hate to say this cause it makes it sound even worse, but your chances of getting the "shift manager" job at McDonald's is not even a guarantee, considering they may want you to "work your way up" first. While I understand not a lot of Americans pay a whole lot of respect to McJobs, that doesn't mean that everyone gets to start out as the boss when they apply to their local McJobs. |
Bingo, before coming here I applied to a bunch of these positions since I ran my own business in college.
They're not desperate and the ones who did have the position seemed to work their way up, not walk in with a liberal arts degree. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you have an apartment when you could just live/work from home!
I just think we should put our profession into perspective.
1. We have to live in a very foreiner-UNfriendly environment.
2. We longer enjoy the same Qualify of Life we enjoyed back home. (limited choice in food, services, etc...)
3. Friends and Family are very far away. How many weddings, births, and birthdays have we missed?
We do all of these things to get a small one-room apartment that a McDonald's shift manager doesn't get.
I don't mean to put down the profession of a McDonald's manager. You can insert any full time shift manager retail job here that doesn't require a college degree.
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Some of these little kids make it worth it being out here. Much more satisfying than yelling at high schoolers or working ungodly hours as the manager of McDonalds. I wouldnt trade this life for the same paying job back home. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
We do all of these things to get a small one-room apartment that a McDonald's shift manager doesn't get.
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Pkang, your registration says March 2007. What you describe is a first-year situation. After a year, you should be in a job that will allow you to live in something bigger than a box. And you sure as hell shouldn't be making less than a McD's manager, even with the shitty exchange rate. Even for a first year job, 2.2 is shit; it's downright shameful for anyone to be making that little after their first year. |
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