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Housing Allowance and Key Money

 
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jodie1903



Joined: 15 May 2014
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:32 pm    Post subject: Housing Allowance and Key Money Reply with quote

I've applied for a job with ILS in Busan, but instead of offering housing they are giving housing allowance. I would have to pay the key money upfront as well as the flight to Korea. Can anyone give me some advice on whether or not this is a good deal. This will be my first time teaching and don't know anything about how this "key money" works. I've been looking for work in Busan for a long time so if offered the job should i take it or is it too risky?

Thoughts?
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Porksta



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How key money works: you put down a substantial amount of your own cash (typically 10 to 20 million won for teacher-style living) as a deposit. You're meant to get it all back when you finish the lease. You need to have your real estate agent research the owner's solvency (a normal procedure) before signing. You semi-assure your money's safety by registering it at your local court building.

As a newcomer, as Porksta suggests, you probably dont want to go there.

Keep looking for another offer that flies you here & simply houses you.
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very risky. You will have to pay for your own flight, and likely put a 5,000-10,000 deposit on an apartment. You will be locked into a one year lease, and if things don't work out with the school, it will be a nightmare.
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Overture1928



Joined: 12 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Housing Allowance and Key Money Reply with quote

jodie1903 wrote:
I've applied for a job with ILS in Busan, but instead of offering housing they are giving housing allowance. I would have to pay the key money upfront as well as the flight to Korea. Can anyone give me some advice on whether or not this is a good deal. This will be my first time teaching and don't know anything about how this "key money" works. I've been looking for work in Busan for a long time so if offered the job should i take it or is it too risky?

Thoughts?


It has its pros and cons. I don't know what real estate is like in Busan but in Seoul the minimum key money you are going to need for an average/decent place is 10,000,000원 ($10,000) deposit and your looking at anywhere from $500-$1000 a month + utilities + building fee depending on your tastes. Don't forget $300 to pay a real estate agent to find you a place (maybe you can get the school to pay for that). Nice thing is you are in control so they can't stick you in a shit place. I would say though if your a complete newb and have little Korean skills to actually converse with a Realtor you might have a bad time. I mean if you have a friend in busan who can go around with you to a couple realtors than you would be alright.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on what benefits the school is offering (in particular, the salary) then it might or might not be a good offer. If the pay is standard then it's a bad offer.

You haven't mentioned whether or not you've ever been to Korea before or whether you can speak Korean. If you can' speak Korean and aren't familiar with life in Korea then you should avoid this option of housing allowance. It's inconvenient and may be very difficult for someone coming fresh off the boat. You'll have a lot of stuff to worry about and this will only add to the stuff you have to deal with. If the situation at the school gets bad then they can simply fire you with no problems for them. You on the other hand will be left to resolve a lot of problems. Problems which could potentially bankrupt you and leave you stranded here without a way home and without a visa (and no job = no salary = no way to pay the rent). This is a situation that you should avoid at all costs. If you're fluent in Korean and familiar with life here (which I doubt if you aren't familiar with how key money works) then it will just come down to whether you have the key money (or are willing to stay in a goshiwon) and whether the school is offering good enough compensation for the inconvenience (of finding your own housing and paying for your own flight).

Busan is a big place and there are always new jobs opening there. Have you asked the recruiters why none of them have given you any offers yet? Or if you did have offers, why you weren't accepted? Either there's some part of the story that you haven't told us about or else there's something wrong with the way you're job hunting. Tell us the whole story (and ask the recruiters for more info) and we can probably give you some advice on getting a better job offer than this one at ILS.
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Dr. Lipschitz



Joined: 30 Aug 2013

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it the ILS in Centum city?

About the apartment: you can easily get a newish one room for 3 million down and 300-350 a month rent. You could even get a loft apartment in that price range around d Gwangali. 3-5 is possible, it's possible to go even lower on the key money.
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jodie1903



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, its Namgu
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jodie1903



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

during the interview they did say they would help find accommodation, but i want to find something where i don't have to pay too much key money in advance
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wanderkind



Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jodie1903 wrote:
during the interview they did say they would help find accommodation, but i want to find something where i don't have to pay too much key money in advance


If you have enough key money to plunk down in advance, you can get lower monthly rents.

A guy I know dropped upwards of 50 million won and is rent free.

But how many people coming here to teach have that laying around...

Personally I'd pass on that place unless you talk to a former teacher and they give it a glowing endorsement.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
How key money works: you put down a substantial amount of your own cash (typically 10 to 20 million won for teacher-style living) as a deposit. You're meant to get it all back when you finish the lease. You need to have your real estate agent research the owner's solvency (a normal procedure) before signing. You semi-assure your money's safety by registering it at your local court building.

As a newcomer, as Porksta suggests, you probably dont want to go there.

Keep looking for another offer that flies you here & simply houses you.


Depends on where you are going to live. A regional city out in the provinces will cost 3 million won for a one room or studio in a modern building built within the past 5 years. In Seoul, it will be 10 million won for the same type of place. Rent in Seoul will be 500,000 won or even more. Out in the provinces, it will be 300,000.

As a new person coming to Korea for the first time, I would advise against this. Also, never ever pay your own flight to Korea for a hakwon. You'll never know if they'll screw you later on or play games. Always, always, always, get them to pay your flight to Korea.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jodie1903 wrote:
during the interview they did say they would help find accommodation, but i want to find something where i don't have to pay too much key money in advance


Any place that agrees to not take key money will usually be a slum and you'll be living in an old dumpy uninsulated mold prone building. Also, when something goes wrong in these place, good luck trying to get the slumlord landlord trying to help you. Also, they'll come at you with absurd costs like water fees and other things that are paid for in newer building by the landlord. Also, your utilities will be sky high because of inefficiency in the buildings, heaters, etc.

Sometimes, it can't be helped as some cheap employers or local education offices don't want to pay any key or deposit so the foriegner gets stuck in a dumpy buildings. But, at least you can walk away or choose to get your own place after a year or so, if you've saved up the key.
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