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Gusss
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 Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Winter camps |
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| Can anyone tell me about any winter camps in Korea this year(ie anytime between now and 2009) . I would like to know about any, but specifically ones that pay your airfare ! |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Winter camps |
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| Gusss wrote: |
| Can anyone tell me about any winter camps in Korea this year(ie anytime between now and 2009) . I would like to know about any, but specifically ones that pay your airfare ! |
Good luck.... |
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Gusss
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Winter camps |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| Gusss wrote: |
| Can anyone tell me about any winter camps in Korea this year(ie anytime between now and 2009) . I would like to know about any, but specifically ones that pay your airfare ! |
Good luck.... |
Ok Ok scratch the airfare - Ill settle for ones that actually pay you.....
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Winter camps |
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| Gusss wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| Gusss wrote: |
| Can anyone tell me about any winter camps in Korea this year(ie anytime between now and 2009) . I would like to know about any, but specifically ones that pay your airfare ! |
Good luck.... |
Ok Ok scratch the airfare - Ill settle for ones that actually pay you .... |
Good luck.... |
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Gusss
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Ramen. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I GUSSS he just told it like it usually is.... |
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Gusss
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| I GUSSS he just told it like it usually is.... |
You guys serious ? They actually dont even pay you ? Comon I expect a bit of skullduggery but not paying people - that sounds unlikely even for Korea, but if you guys work there and thats what happens then thanks for the warning !!!!!! |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Gusss wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| I GUSSS he just told it like it usually is.... |
You guys serious ? They actually dont even pay you ? Comon I expect a bit of skullduggery but not paying people - that sounds unlikely even for Korea, but if you guys work there and thats what happens then thanks for the warning !!!!!! |
Usually about 30-40% of the people who work at them don't get paid.
The boss disappears over the horizon the day before you get paid (last day of camp). This is especially true when people work camps without a work visa (C4) or outside of their E2 (without the blessing of immigration).
Another 50% get seriously ripped off on wages (how does a 27% tax bracket sound for starters). Then they add in the other deductions and you get what's left (less than 1/2 of what you were expecting).
10-20% come away happy or at least not feeling too badly ripped off (usually the ones with a C4 or immigration approval on their E2).
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Gusss
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Jesus Christ 
Are working conditions generally this bad in Korea ?
Are there no reputable firms for doing winter camps ? Would I be wrong in thinking government run camps would be more reliable ?
I guess the old adage is true - if it looks to good to be true it probably is ! I was looking at Korea as a kind of disneyland for ESL teachers ..... I'm wrong arent I ? |
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Gusss
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone else got any experience of winter camps ? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone else got any experience of winter camps ? |
Once a uni camp run by a hakwon tried to lock up English monkeys in the campus cage for the duration of the camp. Fortunately, all English monkeys escaped. |
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Tommy
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I can vouch for the one camp I worked at years ago.. Camp Korea, or CK. I know they have a flight option which I took at the time - they just deducted 1Mil from my pay. The return flight was an open ticket good for 1 year.
I still see job postings for them every season and they always have a few returnees, as returnees get incremental bonuses for the number of times they return. No problems with pay, no 27% tax.
If you can't find the job ads, PM me and I can put you in touch with the recruiting manager. |
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Gusss
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Tommy, as soon as Ive made 25 posts I will pm you ! (forum requirement for pming is minimum 25 posts) in fact is there any chance that you could pm me otherwise I will be forced to flood the board with complete gibberish ! |
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BrianInSuwon
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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a couple years ago, a friend came to Korea for a 1 or 2 month camp at an English Village. airfare was included, the pay was more than I was earning and the hours were less. plus there were a lot of foreign english teachers at the camp to "spend time with".
I don't think you'll have any problems getting paid from a government run English Village camp. Just stay away from the mom and pop hagwon camps. |
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I was looking at Korea as a kind of disneyland for ESL teachers |
Good luck... |
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