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KumaraKitty
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: Notarizing a Criminal Record Check? |
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Our friends are coming to teach here and we just got all their documents here and the director took it to immigration. Immigration says they can't be processed because their Criminal record check(the original) is not notarized. While they were in Canada, they took their original to the Korean Consulate to have it notarized. They refused to do it, stating that a Lawyer must. so they took it to a lawyer, who refused to do it, stating that it was an Original Police Document and altering it in anyway would void it. So I checked on here, found it was their copies that should be notarized. So we had them make copies and notarize them and send the whole package.
But immigration is refusing to accept the un-notarized criminal record check. So finally we talked to immigration here in English, and they said that they need the VSS and Criminal record check notarized by the Korean consulate who refused to do so, and to go back to consulate and get it done, or just come here and do a Visa run to Japan!!!
So does anyone have a clue what we should do? Should we just get them to cover and send them to Japan? This is so frustrating!!! |
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Juregen
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KumaraKitty
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| We did that to the copies but they are saying the ORIGINAL needs to be notarized. |
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Dude Ranch
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
Not only do they need Notarization, they also need to be Apostilized.
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False -- if you read the post he mentioned that they are from Canada, one of the few countries that DID NOT sign onto the international apostilation agreement. We only use notarization |
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Dude Ranch
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| KumaraKitty wrote: |
| We did that to the copies but they are saying the ORIGINAL needs to be notarized. |
Impossible - notorization is where a legal representative (public notory OR lawyer) examines the original documents, makes a photocopy and then stamps and puts his seal on the copies which is his promise as a legal representative that the copies are exact replica's of the originals. This is the whole point of notorization - to prove that something is a real copy of the original so you do not have to risk losing original docs
this is all your friends (and any other canadians reading this) have to do
1. take the CRC + VSS + Degree and photocopy all three of them
2. Take the originals AND the photocopies to either a registered Canadian lawyer OR public notary, get them to notorize the copies
3. Send the notorized copies plus the originals to the korean consulate closes to you, get them to notorize it a second time
4. send the double notorized copies of CRC + VSS + Degree to Korea |
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KumaraKitty
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Dude Ranch wrote: |
| KumaraKitty wrote: |
| We did that to the copies but they are saying the ORIGINAL needs to be notarized. |
Impossible - notorization is where a legal representative (public notory OR lawyer) examines the original documents, makes a photocopy and then stamps and puts his seal on the copies which is his promise as a legal representative that the copies are exact replica's of the originals. This is the whole point of notorization - to prove that something is a real copy of the original so you do not have to risk losing original docs
this is all your friends (and any other canadians reading this) have to do
1. take the CRC + VSS + Degree and photocopy all three of them
2. Take the originals AND the photocopies to either a registered Canadian lawyer OR public notary, get them to notorize the copies
3. Send the notorized copies plus the originals to the korean consulate closes to you, get them to notorize it a second time
4. send the double notorized copies of CRC + VSS + Degree to Korea |
I spoke to Immigration twice today and the Canadian Embassy! They STILL say they want us to somehow get the Originals notarized!!! We are about ready to just say "F@ck it!" and fly them over here and make the school send it to Japan. Immigration says if they are here the Canadian embassy can notarize their stuff, but seriously, WTF???
They received their original Criminal Record Check and VSS, went to the Korean Consulate in Toronto who REFUSED to notarize it, stating that a Lawyer must do so. They went to a Lawyer who made 3 copies and notarized them of each document AND their degrees. They then sent this to Korea. Is it the fact that they did not take these notarized copies back to the Korean consulate that is the problem? Because immigration here sure isn't helping explain what was wrong! They just keep saying "original, original" which is what the Korean consulate refused in the first place!
*sigh*
Thanks for the info, I'll tell you, trying to be a recruiter for friends is NOT worth it!! |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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I too was confused about this. I took my criminal record check to a notary public, who told me that he could not notarize it. My recruiter told me that I absolutely had to "simply" get the notorial seal on the document... So, on a later visit, the notary agreed to notarize my signature, signed in the presence, on the CRC, because legally, he has no way to notarize that Sgt. so-and-so of the RCMP approved my CRC.
So maybe you could find some notary and say, "psst... notarize me signing this paper!" It seems like that is the only way. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| This Canadian girl who is dating a Korean guy was trying to claim to me that immigration is on our side. I said that was bull, because I don't remember Suwon Immigration being fun to deal with. |
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Dude Ranch
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| KumaraKitty wrote: |
We are about ready to just say "F@ck it!" and fly them over here and make the school send it to Japan. |
Are visa runs for first time e-2 visa holders still allowed? I'm not sure 100% but I heard they got rid of this for first timers
| KumaraKitty wrote: |
| They went to a Lawyer who made 3 copies and notarized them of each document AND their degrees. They then sent this to Korea. Is it the fact that they did not take these notarized copies back to the Korean consulate that is the problem? |
Yes! At this point send the notorized documents via XPRESSPOST (through Canada Post - the only method the korean consulate will accept, and also put a return pre paid envelop folded up inside the package so they can send it back, it takes 1 day to get there and 1 day to return it nororized again by the consulate.
| KumaraKitty wrote: |
Thanks for the info, I'll tell you, trying to be a recruiter for friends is NOT worth it!! |
You learned a valuable lesson -- don't ever get jobs for your friends. I am speaking from personal experience here, IT WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU. You NEVER know when people will change in life. I had a friend who was an honour role student, nice guy, had it to together. I get him a job and what happens? he took a complete 180 turn and went downhill and got fired 6 weeks after I got him the job. boy did that look bad upon me. Anything your friends do will be reflected back upon you in the future.
anyways just follow the four steps I mentioned in the above and u will be fine |
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