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Teachurrrrrrr - We are scared of foreigners!
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Teachurrrrrrr - We are scared of foreigners! Reply with quote

I have been at my public school for 5 months and thought I carved out a nice relationship with a lot of my students - I thought I was approachable anyway.

I got my students to write about their 5 days at the English village that they recently went to and a lot of them have written and spoke about 'being scared of foreigners' (which disappeared when they went to the English village apparently)

'You are scared of foreigners?' said I 'So you have been scared of me - for the 5 past months?' and the little bastards said YES! Evil or Very Mad

'What have you got to be scared about?' I said to them 'What difference is there between you and I' but I didn't get anything like a decent answer.

So there you go - all the time they were saying hi and participating in my lessons while I was making them laugh - they were shitting themselves the whole time - I give up!
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This fear isn't ingrained, it has to be learned. I wonder where they get it from.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They might mean they are afraid to talk to foreigners. Even adults are the same.
If you want to strike fear into the heart of a Korean, make them think they will have to talk English. The teachers at my school are so nervous around me because of this.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that is why, if Korea wants to be involved in global business, Koreans will always have to learn English face-to-face with foreigners.
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mj roach



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

generations of k/grandmas telling kids if they are noisy and misbehave.....
'the foreigners' will catch them and take them away
'the foreigner' = bogeyman
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justaguy



Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When students tell me they are scared of foreigners, I tell them I'm scared of foreigners too.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahahaah

I'm scared of foreigners too!.. hahahahah

but I DO think it's very true that Korean adults are "embarrased" (for lack of a better word) and reticent to speak English for fear of making a mistake or not being understood.

not sure what drives this - I've been part of it is a drive to perfection, perhaps there are issues of "face" involved.

I don't know.

I also don't know how and at what point it develops in kids but it's there by high school age (the years I teach)

that is one of the reasons I find Korean elementary school kids so precious and precocious though. I don't think this fear and reticence is there yet.

Yesterday I was walking back from Paris Baguette at lunchtime (yet another indigestible public school cafeteria offering) and two of the cutest little Korean girls saw me.. made big eyes, then started giggling to each other... then one said.. Hello!!!

and I waved and said HELLO!

more giggles... the one yells out.... "what's your name!?" (in well pronounced English)..

I said.. my name is "Bogey" , then waved and walked across the street back to school.

little kids are precious.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
And that is why, if Korea wants to be involved in global business, Koreans will always have to learn English face-to-face with foreigners.

Ask yourself who'd actually want to trade with these people. Imagine that you ship over a container full of widgets to Korea from your own country. When do you think you'd actually get paid for those widgets? I've had dealings of exporting across Europe (France, Italy, Greece, Ireland) and can say with some authority that I wouldn't do business with Koreans' for the same reason we refused to have any business dealings with the Spanish; they'll only cough-up once they've sold whatever it is you've sold them. I can't think of many other less attractive countries to do business in short of unstable, tin-pot regimes in the third-world. If the Korean economy suddenly opened itself up to foreign imports on a large scale, I think it'd take a few years before the averge western exporter took them seriously as people worth trading with, that's if they weren't driven to bankruptcy first of course.
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justaguy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nonpayment isn't exclusive to Korea.

That's what export insurance is for.
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Suwon Sister



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several times we have overheard mothers and grandmothers warning their kids to behave or my husband (who is 6' 5") will grab them and take them away. We had wondered why some children are so friendly while others look terrified to see us.

The first time I thought it was a fluke but it has happened time and time again.

Becky
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hwarangi



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised their fears were assuaged by a trip to an English Village. The one I went to was one of the creepiest places I've been - reminded me of the Simpsons' episode when Lisa drank the water at Duff Gardens.
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rayjoy



Joined: 19 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Teachurrrrrrr - We are scared of foreigners! Reply with quote

bundangbabo wrote:
So there you go - all the time they were saying hi and participating in my lessons while I was making them laugh - they were shitting themselves the whole time - I give up!


I still can't speak Korean but I can often pick up what people are talking about especially if it's about me and I've just realized that both of my co-teachers regularly coach the students to say hello and good-bye to me. Kind of like your parents telling you when you're young: "Go give grandma a hug!" ... or maybe you didn't have scary grandmothers.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mj roach wrote:
generations of k/grandmas telling kids if they are noisy and misbehave.....
'the foreigners' will catch them and take them away
'the foreigner' = bogeyman


Yes, it goes back a long way. I've read and heard different sources, over the years, about such stories going back to the early days of Westerners to Korea (late 1800s).
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jkelly80



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Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
mj roach wrote:
generations of k/grandmas telling kids if they are noisy and misbehave.....
'the foreigners' will catch them and take them away
'the foreigner' = bogeyman


Yes, it goes back a long way. I've read and heard different sources, over the years, about such stories going back to the early days of Westerners to Korea (late 1800s).


진짜요? That's pretty silly.

Although my Croatian grandmother would regularly threaten to sell me to the gypsies, maybe scary in Croatia but not much on the south side of Chicago


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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
mj roach wrote:
generations of k/grandmas telling kids if they are noisy and misbehave.....
'the foreigners' will catch them and take them away
'the foreigner' = bogeyman


Yes, it goes back a long way. I've read and heard different sources, over the years, about such stories going back to the early days of Westerners to Korea (late 1800s).


did someone say bogeyman?

can I help? Cool
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