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None of the World's 'Top Technologies' Are Korean
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: None of the World's 'Top Technologies' Are Korean Reply with quote

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200811/200811270015.html

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None of the world's best technologies in major areas are Korean, and the trend will probably continue for the next five years. The Ministry of Education, Science and Technology on Wednesday said the evaluation of 90 major scientific and technological sectors chosen in a survey found that the U.S. has 270 out of the 364 key technologies, the EU 60 and Japan 34.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a no brainer. How much money does Korea spend on R&D?


Some countries don't need R&D. They can just purchases licenses and patents. In fact, Korea is better off paying royalties/licenses instead of dumping a LOT of capital in promoting R&D.

Also, that isn't to say Korean companies aren't at the cutting edge of various technology fields. Samsung has their hands in a LOT of new technologies that are coming out. Sure, they aren't building the high tech goods, but they are responsibile for making key components.
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earthbound14



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article said they figure Korea is 6.8 years behind the other countries. That's not bad considering they must have been about 100 years behind 50 years ago.

I will remember this article though the next time some drunk at the bar starts saying "Korea number top"
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moosehead



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

earthbound14 wrote:
The article said they figure Korea is 6.8 years behind the other countries. That's not bad considering they must have been about 100 years behind 50 years ago.



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

so the point of the article was to insert this little gem, no doubt

wonder where the 6.8 came from Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

by the time the 6.8 years have passed, K will no doubt be exponentially behind another 46.24 years (6.8 squared)
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

earthbound14 wrote:
The article said they figure Korea is 6.8 years behind the other countries.
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I'm not sure where they got this number. I'm pretty sure that 6.8 years ago, the Japanese accounted for more than 0 out of 364 top technologies.
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agoodmouse



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some posters just revel in any bad news about Korea.
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I think Korea spends quite a lot on the D part of R&D. Every University I've worked at has a relationship with a Chaebol that involves money going to funding tech development.

I'm no rocket surgeon, but I think Korea needs to be spending money on the R part of the equation if they want leading edge tech.
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:

Also, that isn't to say Korean companies aren't at the cutting edge of various technology fields. Samsung has their hands in a LOT of new technologies that are coming out. Sure, they aren't building the high tech goods, but they are responsibile for making key components.


Case in point.
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earthbound14



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
earthbound14 wrote:
The article said they figure Korea is 6.8 years behind the other countries.
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I'm not sure where they got this number. I'm pretty sure that 6.8 years ago, the Japanese accounted for more than 0 out of 364 top technologies.


Probably from the same place they got their IQ scores from.

I think Korea tends to rely to heavily on statistical information that comes from sources that are not really detailed enough to be...well...true.

But then, it seems to help them set goals and achieve them.

Sometimes though you hear some odd things come from the mouths of educated Koreans. A great friend of mine once told me that at Koreas current rate of growth they would be the largest and most technologically advanced economy in the world in 40 years....provided of course that they can keep doing what they are doing and none of the other countries make any changes....sure, but in reality that just isn't true and how exactly can a test measure that? It gave him hope though, so perhaps in the Korean media they do not serve as real indicators, but more as motivators. It can get tiring talking with Korean peolpe though about their products. I had to tell a student the other day that Korean cars were not viewed as the top cars in the world...she was really shocked.

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earthbound14



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:

Also, that isn't to say Korean companies aren't at the cutting edge of various technology fields. Samsung has their hands in a LOT of new technologies that are coming out. Sure, they aren't building the high tech goods, but they are responsibile for making key components.


Case in point.


I saw a new Kia Forte the other day and mistook it for a Honda...they really getting their shite together. Class little car in almost every detail.

Perhaps they are on the verge of changing from the worlds best copy cats (after the Japanese of course) to real innovators.....
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Ruraljuror



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As opposed to all the technological innovation we can see these days coming out of Canada? The UK?

Does this notion even make sense any more? Most R & D and innovation is coming from multi-national corporations and it's kind of stupid to claim that a multi-national represents one country more than any other, isn't it? The only concern of a multi-national is making it's shareholders happy.

As far as I can tell, for the last three generations, the top minds from all around the world have gone to an American university and gotten a job out of university working for a multi-national which at one point was American in origin. If a brilliant Indian scholar goes to Princeton, gets a job with Intel and invents a new piece of technology, shareholders from all around the world reap the financial benefits and that new technology will be manufactured in plants located all over the planet...but definitely not in America. So...is this supposed to make me feel proud that "America" has "invented" this technology?

Some of you guys either take every possible opportunity to take cheap shots at our hosts here or have a disturbingly outdated view of how the world works. People who get so worked up with Nationalism are creepy.
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victorology



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
Some of you guys either take every possible opportunity to take cheap shots at our hosts here or have a disturbingly outdated view of how the world works. People who get so worked up with Nationalism are creepy.


Well said.
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Ukon



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from the fraud scientist a few years back., they're making some decent gains in stem cell research.
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
People who get so worked up with Nationalism are creepy.


There are some good points in your post about Korea bashers, but this sentence destroyed your whole argument. I'm no ardent Korea basher, but Koreans are without a doubt the most nationalistic people I have ever lived/traveled amongst; even those who love Korea would probably admit that.
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Darkray16



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
earthbound14 wrote:
The article said they figure Korea is 6.8 years behind the other countries. That's not bad considering they must have been about 100 years behind 50 years ago.



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

so the point of the article was to insert this little gem, no doubt

wonder where the 6.8 came from Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

by the time the 6.8 years have passed, K will no doubt be exponentially behind another 46.24 years (6.8 squared)


I think they are catching up, so in 6.8 year they would be closer to the forefront.
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