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The ugly-looking guy vs. the stud in Korea
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Ekaia



Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: The ugly-looking guy vs. the stud in Korea Reply with quote

What I've noticed here in Korea is that the average and hideous-looking guy with fast and witty lines ends up scoring big time with the ladies. This goes for Koreans as well as foreigners.
Ugly-looking people know they are ugly and they come to accept it and learn how to live with it.


The "good-looking" guy on the other hand needs constant reassurance he's God's gift to women and ends up trying too hard to be funny and impress the ladies. This type of fellow occasionally gets the young, insecure, plastic surgery princess with the brains of a 2-year-old goat, but never seems to impress the real and good girls. These dudes are really at a loss as to how to talk to the ladies. They lie, exaggerate, use lame slapstick humor and often bitch and complain about life in Korea when around girls.

Put an ugly-looking but funny guy and a stud in the same room with 5 girls, and the hunk would end up be owned by the ugly one who wouldn't even be needing a drop of alcohol.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this is a function of age/maturity rather than looks.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: The ugly-looking guy vs. the stud in Korea Reply with quote

You couldn't generalize your way out of a paper bag.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: The ugly-looking guy vs. the stud in Korea Reply with quote

Ekaia wrote:
What I've noticed here in Korea is that the average and hideous-looking guy with fast and witty lines ends up scoring big time with the ladies. This goes for Koreans as well as foreigners.
Ugly-looking people know they are ugly and they come to accept it and learn how to live with it.


The "good-looking" guy on the other hand needs constant reassurance he's God's gift to women and ends up trying too hard to be funny and impress the ladies. This type of fellow occasionally gets the young, insecure, plastic surgery princess with the brains of a 2-year-old goat, but never seems to impress the real and good girls. These dudes are really at a loss as to how to talk to the ladies. They lie, exaggerate, use lame slapstick humor and often bitch and complain about life in Korea when around girls.

Put an ugly-looking but funny guy and a stud in the same room with 5 girls, and the hunk would end up be owned by the ugly one who wouldn't even be needing a drop of alcohol.


I am not sure what to make of what you wrote above. That sort of could apply all over the world. If you have a personality, you're smooth, then you can get a bunch of birds flocking to you. If you don't know how to say the right things to them, the birds will fly away, so to speak. If you don't have the right call, then they go.

You said stud versus ugly, but you didn't mention average guys. That would change things for you. In the end, if you just rely on your physical appearance it's not generally enough. If you are very hot, it will get you a lot of attention. It works better for females than males.
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: The ugly-looking guy vs. the stud in Korea Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
You couldn't generalize your way out of a paper bag.


Besides which, all generalizations are false.
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clyde



Joined: 09 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with this statement. I used to weigh 220 pounds and then over a year dropped almost 70 of it. I actually got fewer women believe it or not. The reason was that I had to put effort into making myself charming because I would have never scored while I was fat. When I got slim once in a while girls came to me and I got spoiled and thought the world owed me a favour. So yes smoothness and wit go along way with women.
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This makes it to be some sort of either or proposition. I actually think confidence is the biggest key.
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Louie



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its all in how a person packages themselves- if a person is fugly yet witty, yeah he will do well. Yet, even if he is handsome and witty, it is good too.
However, the handsome ones have the "Podum Dunggi" and "Chaebi" tags put on them because they will always been seen as "playboys" and such because people will always think that women will always chase them.

Yet, I think that if a person is not handsome and has a good job, they can land the best women- which is why you see alot of gross old businessmen going out with the hottest girls.
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Perceptioncheck



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How ugly are we talking here?

To me, there's a big difference between ugly and average.

I've known some pretty "hideous" guys with great lines and fantastic wit who had heaps of beautiful women. . .as friends. They just couldn't go the distance.
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victorology



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louie wrote:
Yet, I think that if a person is not handsome and has a good job, they can land the best women- which is why you see alot of gross old businessmen going out with the hottest girls.


Oh yeah. I change my biggest key from confidence to money.
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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started to respond to the OP...but then just got frustrated. His post is filled with too many bad generalizations to even try to refute.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate the guy that always has a story to top yours.

I'll tell a funny story, and THAT guy has got to top yours with something crazier.

Usually those people are pathological liars.


Don't you hate that guy too?
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Louie



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an addition to the topic:


In addition to the wit and clever lines- how much arrogance should a show during "the pick-up"?

From what I have seen, sometimes casual conversation seems better than concentrated conversation when talking to the fairer sex and also showing that you are not overly interested in talking to them, it gives them the impression that they are not "the only" beauties on your list. It makes them work hard to gain YOUR attention, not vice versa, since it shows a sense of desperation on your part.

Also, what I seen is that it is better to burst their "friendship" bubble- it is the concept where a woman is surrounded male friends, this gives her a sense of security in that she is not threatened by the prospect of being seen as more than a friend by her male friends......So, I guess it would be safe to say that if she says she only wants to be friends with you- just tell her that its impossible for men and women to be friends and walk away- if she's interested in you, she'll go to you.

I think having wit and being clever is not enough- there has to be alot more to it than that..........


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I hate the guy that always has a story to top yours.
I'll tell a funny story, and THAT guy has got to top yours with something crazier. Usually those people are pathological liars.
Don't you hate that guy too?


Those people are called cockblockers
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Perceptioncheck



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louie wrote:


Also, what I seen is that it is better to burst their "friendship" bubble- it is the concept where a woman is surrounded male friends, this gives her a sense of security in that she is not threatened by the prospect of being seen as more than a friend by her male friends......So, I guess it would be safe to say that if she says she only wants to be friends with you- just tell her that its impossible for men and women to be friends and walk away- if she's interested in you, she'll go to you.

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Instead of saying it's impossible for men and women to be friends and walking away, why don't you just tell the woman that you want to be more than just friends?

If a guy said to me "It's impossible for men and women to be friends" I would think he was a right *beep*, partly because I (and a lot of women) know it's not true.
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ashke516



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

victorology wrote:
This makes it to be some sort of either or proposition. I actually think confidence is the biggest key.


I agree Cool
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