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[Gopher]

[huffdaddy]

[mithridates]

It'll happen thanks to racist non-Americans over the next while. Some Austrian politician last week said something along the lines of being disappointed at the election because black people weren't advanced enough to run the government and even the people at Free Republic (generally people that like to find any excuse to fine fault with Barack Obama) were offended by that. Even non-Obama supporters will probably enjoy ribbing the Europeans a bit about getting with the times the next time they travel there and the discussion turns to politics. "So where's your black president, Europe? Still got some Bradley Effect in the Old World I see? Heh heh heh."

[seosan08]

[huffdaddy]

[ManintheMiddle]

Gopher:

Another fine thread topic and one that should be of pressing consideration to American posters here.

As one who taught in the Black community for a decade, I'm not surprised by these survey results in the least. The victimhood mindset has been continually fed by the likes of Jackson and Sharpton, as well as the Black Caucus. John McWhorter, formerly a linguist at Cal-Berkeley and the author of the eloquent NYT bestseller, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America, who is himself Black, describes this social malaise at length.

One of the main reasons I voted for Obama was the hope that he could indeed bridge the divide, especially given his biracial heritage but also his reluctance to play the race card at the first available opportunity.

One of the things that bothers me about the Black-White discussion is that it is too binary: other races and/or ethnic groups are lost in the shuffle. I would argue that the Brown-Black divide is at least as contentious today, for example. And we saw what happened to Korean American businesses during the King riots in L.A. in 1992.

The divide has been closing since 1964; ironically and tragically, it is affirmative action policies which perhaps more than anything else delays the process of reconciliation. While I support affirmative action in spirit and principle, I abhor its current practice, especially in higher education.

But look for some Blacks to cry "Uncle Tom" the moment they perceive Obama as pandering to White interests. And Jackson has already gone on record as saying that while Obama's win narrows the divide considerably, it will not close it.

The biggest enemy of Black America today is the disintegration of the family, something some Black radio talk show hosts have discussed. For example, according to the US Census of 2000, more than 70% of all Black babies are born out of wedlock. That figure exceeds what it was in the time of segregation. And were it not for the rise in the number of Black females enrolling in college, the percentage of Blacks attending would be less than forty years ago. I could go on....

[Gopher]

Thanks, ManintheMiddle. Huffdaddy's hand-wringing "lingering effects of Jim Crow and racial discrimination" and his citing my race as a determinant of my perception simply fails.

American society on the whole, legally and otherwise, has long since abandoned Jim Crow, rejected all its legacies, and simply does not discriminate against African-Americans as a class. One may find African-Americans in all branches of govt, from the federal to the state and local levels, from the presidency and the Supreme Court to sheriff, school teacher, and juror. African-Americans practice law. No racial segregation at all or legacy thereof visible in the armed forces, cities, or schools, to cite three important areas.

One may find upper-, middle-, and lower-class blacks in the American economy.

African-Americans play heroic and not racially-stereotyped roles in film and on television (as do Hispanic-Americans). Take M. Freeman, D. Washington, W. Smith, to cite but three very high-profile black actors well-regarded in all American society at large. The list goes on.

Yes, Huffdaddy, time to move forward. The good news is: this poll suggests many Americans, black and white, are thinking the same thing. Looks like leftists will need to remove "race" from their "race, class, and gender" boogeyman and list of the usual suspects. Seems their ages-old clients may have lost interest in this particular product and they will need to retool it in order to survive henceforward...

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[Big_Bird]

Who is surprised that an Austrian said such a thing? Have any of you guys ever been to Austria? They have a reputation for this kind of nonsense, particularly the older generation. Though fortunately not all, of course.

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[seosan08]

[Kuros]

[The Bobster]

[Gopher]

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