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"Doubtless Iran's government merits harsh condemnation, including for its recent actions that have inflamed the crisis. It is, however, useful to ask how we would act if Iran had invaded and occupied Canada and Mexico and was arresting U.S. government representatives there on the grounds that they were resisting the Iranian occupation (called "liberation," of course). Imagine as well that Iran was deploying massive naval forces in the Caribbean and issuing credible threats to launch a wave of attacks against a vast range of sites -- nuclear and otherwise -- in the United States, if the U.S. government did not immediately terminate all its nuclear energy programs (and, naturally, dismantle all its nuclear weapons). Suppose that all of this happened after Iran had overthrown the government of the U.S. and installed a vicious tyrant (as the US did to Iran in 1953), then later supported a Russian invasion of the U.S. that killed millions of people (just as the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran in 1980, killing hundreds of thousands of Iranians, a figure comparable to millions of Americans). Would we watch quietly?

It is easy to understand an observation by one of Israel's leading military historians, Martin van Creveld. After the U.S. invaded Iraq, knowing it to be defenseless, he noted, "Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy." "
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/tomdispatch/chomsky_iran.html

[thiophene]

perspective is very important

[Kuros]

The analogy isn't complete.

Imagine if the U.S. were an Christian evangelical theology had defined itself as Iran's enemy. Indeed, the very raison d'etre of the U.S. government was diametrically opposed to Islam. Thus, the U.S. government, on a regular basis, calls Iran specifically 'The Great Satan.' Furthermore, there's a large popular movement in the U.S., especially among the youth, that likes the culture of Iran and thinks Islam is just another religion. This youth movement identifies with Iranian popular culture, and admires Iran's freedom of expression.

If you're going to do this, do it right.

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[agentX]

[bigverne]

[bacasper]

[T-J]

The OP is arguing on a flawed and incomplete premise.

To complete your fantasy, you would have to include the Iranians acting in support of a small, surrounded country such as Cuba that the U.S. in doctrine threatens to wipe off the face of the Earth.

Don't get me wrong I would love to live in a world without fanatics whose hatred goes back thousands of years, but that is the world we live in.

Chomsky and others that argue the U.S. is a terrorist state and that the hatred directed at the U.S. and Israel is a result of policies and actions that have occurred in the last 100 years do not know what they are talking about.

I'm not a supporter of war, but I do understand its unfortunate necessity. Criticize all you want, it is healthy for our system, but keep in mind the barbarism and lack of human compassion that our enemies posses. If you need a reminder turn on the news in India.

[Ya-ta Boy]

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[T-J]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Iran's nuclear program dates well before Bush made his axis of evil speech.

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And how long did Bush have 'Axis of Evil' in mind before Iran started its nuclear program?

[bigverne]