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eac02
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: What are some programs to study abroad in America? |
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One of my students (she is going into her 1st of high school) is interested in studying abroad in America. Her English is great and she is smart, out- going, and very motivated. I asked her if she had talked to other English teacher but she said they don't know anything. I asked them myself and they didn't know a thing about study abroad programs and couldn't offer me any help.
I really want to help her because I think it would be a great experience for her. I did AFS when I was in high school and loved it, unfortunately AFS doesn't work in Korea.
How do kids in Korea study abroad? What programs do they go through? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. |
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moosehead
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: |
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there are so many of those programs but they aren't over here on Dave's
they are run by Ks because they are for Ks
her parents have to investigate it - who are you - one of her teachers? it's up to the parents to deal with it - she's a minor you know - they should just ask around - maybe it's what she wants but they don't want her to go - who knows -
why would you get involved in this? (just asking) it really sounds very personal and a bit over the top - I help kids find info for colleges - maybe you can just point her in that direction - ? |
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eac02
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Yes I'm one of her teachers.
All I wanted to do was give her the names of some programs she could look into. None of her Korean teachers have offered her any help. I really didn't think I was overstepping any boundaries. I'd give her the information and what she and her parents did with it would be up to them.
She asked me for a little help and I told her I'd look into it a little. I realize most of the programs are run by Ks because they are for Ks. I was asking here because I thought maybe some teachers knew about some or had experience with them. |
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moosehead
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I don't think her K teachers would help - it's a direct smack in the face to them that students are taken out of school and sent abroad to study elsewhere, you know.
I've also read that it's actually illegal for certain ages, etc., to do this but the law is circumvented by various ways (of course, TIK).
again, all these programs, not just "some" are run by Ks for Ks. it's up to her parents to find them and deal with it.
again, if I were you, I'd just encourage her to look at universities and get ready for the TOEFL, especially if she's alread in high school. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think her K teachers would help - it's a direct smack in the face to them that students are taken out of school and sent abroad to study elsewhere, you know.
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How so? The reason the K teachers don't want to help is because they probably have no idea. Students studying abroad in Korea is nothing new. Its rather commonplace, so why would Korean teachers feel "smacked in the face"? |
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EricaSmile84
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's a great idea for teachers (GET or not) to help students find study abroad programs. Parents make the decisions of course, but the teachers should be the main people to find out info. |
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Lukychrm42
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Have the student check out YFU (Youth for Understanding), AFS, and Rotary Club. Those are sorta the main ones. They are the real deal in high school study abroad.... You apply, go through interviews, they set up the host family, school, visa, etc, and have various orientations, etc.
I studied in Europe with YFU, and they are brilliant. I've since spent years volunteering with them.
http://yfu.org/
http://www.afs.org/afs_or/home |
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Lukychrm42
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Have the student check out YFU (Youth for Understanding), AFS, and Rotary Club. Those are sorta the main ones. They are the real deal in high school study abroad.... You apply, go through interviews, they set up the host family, school, visa, etc, and have various orientations, etc.
I studied in Europe with YFU, and they are brilliant. I've since spent years volunteering with them.
http://yfu.org/
http://www.afs.org/afs_or/home |
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Omkara
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Omkara
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Omkara
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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I don't think her K teachers would help - it's a direct smack in the face to them that students are taken out of school and sent abroad to study elsewhere, you know.
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How so? The reason the K teachers don't want to help is because they probably have no idea. Students studying abroad in Korea is nothing new. Its rather commonplace, so why would Korean teachers feel "smacked in the face"? |
because students leave at all times during the year, stay away for anywhere from 1 month to 6 to 1 year - then show back up - sometimes just before the end of the semester - and fully expect to pass - of course they will, no one fails a grade in K 
so - teachers are expected to help catch them up - manage their absence, give them special attention - all the while handling an overcrowded class already - and then - hold on - deal with the various emotional issues that invariably come with students who have been living abroad and then are suddenly re-immersed into K culture - the longer they are away, the harder it is on them.
and why is this all happening - because the K education system is considered failing by parents' standards (and it is IMO also) - well - if you are a teacher, that means YOU are part of that "failure" right? so your students are getting snatched out of your class for a "better education" but then they are also brought back and dropped into your class again and you are supposed to educate them anyway - WTF??
heck yeah it's a slap in the face -
if parents had a lick of sense they'd ban together and fix the education system here instead of shipping kids overseas |
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