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LydiaSarah
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: Bucheon, South Korea
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 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: Official word from GEPIK on winter camps |
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Ok, so I bit the bullet and emailed Dain Bae in regards to winter vacation and camps. I basically asked what the schools have a right to ask of us, and about whether or not we get paid for camps. Here's her response. Hope this helps!
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You are required to be at the school as you are paid full salary during the vacation. However, in some cases, employers(ie Principle) may allow our GEPIK teachers to stay at home during holiday when classes are not held. Please understand that all schools are different so it may be different between our GEPIK teachers. Our GEPIK policy is that you are required to be at school during vacation for 8 hours a day as the contract states.
During vacation, you are entitled to teach 20 hours a week with no extra payment that means camps, special classes and teachers' workshop are all included in 20 hours.
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Dain |
Unfortunately, she didn't answer my question about the legal requirement to have a Korean teacher in the room. If anyone knows whether or not they have to be there for winter camps, that would be nice to know! |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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What legal requirement to have a K-teacher in the classroom?
It may be the policy of the Ministry (during regular terms), but I have yet to see where it is law. If some one can quote the Act that states such, I'd be obliged.
As policy, they can follow it to the letter, or not... or follow it sometimes, if it suits them. |
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marlow
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Our GEPIK policy is that you are required to be at school during vacation for 8 hours a day as the contract states. |
Isn't this reason enough to state definitively that the GEPIK contract needs to be changed? |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Our GEPIK policy is that you are required to be at school during vacation for 8 hours a day as the contract states. |
Isn't this reason enough to state definitively that the GEPIK contract needs to be changed? |
i think this just gives them leverage. that way, when you want a few things changed, they just give in on this, and you assume you are getting something, when it should be given already.
or they are just stupid. |
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D.D.
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| The 8 hours a day thing is set up to keep us from having time to teach private lessons. |
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Bucheonguy
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| I'll never work for GEPIK again. It flat out sucks balls. The contract is so weighted in the schools favour it's rediculous. I personally don't like feeling like a slave. The only reason I've toughed it out this time is for my bonus at the end of the year. After this, good bye GEPIk and the notoriously unhelpful Dain. |
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Bucheonguy
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| I'll never work for GEPIK again. It flat out sucks balls. The contract is so weighted in the schools favour it's rediculous. I personally don't like feeling like a slave. The only reason I've toughed it out this time is for my bonus at the end of the year. After this, good bye GEPIk and the notoriously unhelpful Dain. |
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Korussian
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I'm interested in where the 20 hours a week figure is coming from. The 2008 GEPIK contract (and previous ones for all I know) considers 22 hours of class per week to be the standard salary amount.
Okay, so it's vacation and maybe we take it down a notch, but where is this written?
In my case, I negotiated hard with my school to have the right amount of paid vacation/unpaid winter camp/work-from-home-time, and I am perfectly happy with the result.
Just curious if the 20-hour-vacation-week figure has some basis in some document I should know about, and if there are any other magical numbers that apply only during vacation. |
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Otherside
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From the 2008 GEPIK contract:
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Korussian
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From the 2008 GEPIK contract:
Article 7:
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| 6. During school vacations, Employee may be asked to participate in special classes or English day camps up to 20 hours per week. |
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Ah! I missed that. Thank you for pointing it out. :) |
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xCustomx
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| Bucheonguy wrote: |
| I'll never work for GEPIK again. It flat out sucks balls. The contract is so weighted in the schools favour it's rediculous. I personally don't like feeling like a slave. The only reason I've toughed it out this time is for my bonus at the end of the year. After this, good bye GEPIk and the notoriously unhelpful Dain. |
See if you can change the contract in your favor then. That's what I did. I'm not trying to brag, but I'm just showing you that you can negotiate things like vacation, pay, housing allowance, teaching hours, after school OT pay, etc. This will greatly depend on the relationship that you have with your school.
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| The 8 hours a day thing is set up to keep us from having time to teach private lessons. |
4:30-9 is plenty of time to teach privates if you choose to do so. Unless you like teaching business classes early in the morning or kindy, the schedule isn't too bad. I know a couple of teachers that teach 2 hours of privates a day, and they finish by 7:30. 50,000/hr x 10hr/week = extra 2 million a month. Not too bad if you ask me |
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sojusucks
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Official word from GEPIK on winter camps |
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| LydiaSarah wrote: |
Ok, so I bit the bullet and emailed Dain Bae in regards to winter vacation and camps. I basically asked what the schools have a right to ask of us, and about whether or not we get paid for camps. Here's her response. Hope this helps!
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You are required to be at the school as you are paid full salary during the vacation. However, in some cases, employers(ie Principle) may allow our GEPIK teachers to stay at home during holiday when classes are not held. Please understand that all schools are different so it may be different between our GEPIK teachers. Our GEPIK policy is that you are required to be at school during vacation for 8 hours a day as the contract states.
During vacation, you are entitled to teach 20 hours a week with no extra payment that means camps, special classes and teachers' workshop are all included in 20 hours.
Thanks,
Dain |
Unfortunately, she didn't answer my question about the legal requirement to have a Korean teacher in the room. If anyone knows whether or not they have to be there for winter camps, that would be nice to know! |
Other teachers have told me that Dain Bae told them that they aren't paid for camps. This seems to be new.
It's all a load of bullsh** though. Teachers that have been here for a while know that seat warming during winter and not being paid for camps is a tactic to cheat newbies (which may be why schools are more eager to hire newer teachers).
Education is a business and Korea is fairly corrupt. This doesn't surprise me even in the least. |
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