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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I know many people who got through school on Aderol (spelling?). I dislike chemicals. I know enough doctors, lawyers, professors and hard working people on the good green herb to suggest using anything else. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Well, it's been given rather superficial treatment by the BBC article, wouldn't you say?
The UK Government is sufficiently concerned about them to have asked an expert group to assess their impact on medicine and their potential social impact. The Academy of Medical Sciences expert group has held workshops across Britain to find out the public's views
Well, very interesting, I'm sure, but what about what pharmacologists, psychologists and the medical community have to say....about side-effects and stuff like that?
One of these drugs, Modafinil, was developed to treat people who involuntarily fall asleep
Well, is a possible side-effect sleep reduction? That's an immediately obvious concern that the article has nothing to say on. If these drugs are "already being widely used in the US" there must presumably be some information on side-effects.
Interesting though. As a studier of Korean it'd be interesting to see what effect it has on that. I am a strong believer in that the complete elimination of tiredness (preferably via good night's sleep) stimulates the mood and intellect considerably, so I can see a strong connection between the drugs' origins and increased intellectual capacity. |
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blynch

Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: UCLA
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Drugs may boost your brain power |
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butlerian wrote: |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6558871.stm
Anyone have any experiences/thoughts about this? |
honey does... because it has glucose (& fructose) that goes straight to the glycolysis/Kreb cycle/ETS pathway in your cells to produce ATP that powers your brain |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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drugs boost lots of things |
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BS.Dos.

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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I listened to a really interesting programme on BBC Radio 4 last night about Modafinil, which you can listen to (30-minutes in length) again here:
The Defeat of Sleep
The BBC programme is more revealing than the Wiki description.
Apparently, Modafinil has sales in excess of $500 Million per year in the US.
I'd be interested in hearing from anyone that's tried it |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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A lot of people I know love modafinil. However, I wasn't able to afford it back home. There's plenty of reviews of it online by smart, educated people who use it to enhance their productivity.
I wonder what the risks are of importing it here, or if it can be bought at a local pharmacy. Does anyone know any "grey market" pharmacies in Seoul, that will sell something without prescription? |
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BS.Dos.

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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willneverteachagain wrote: |
drugs boost lots of things |
Drugs droop lots of things. |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Anyone who is interested in this sort of thing should look up 'nootropics' - there are a lot of studies going on right now about drugs that boost brain power/increase longevity, that sort of thing. A lot of them are available already as supplements. |
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greedy_bones

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: not quite sure anymore
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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SPINOZA wrote: |
As a studier of Korean it'd be interesting to see what effect it has on that. |
Good sir, you are a teacher. Don't dangle your modifiers in front of the children.
Sorry, first grammar nazi post here, but I do love how obscene "dangling participles" and "dangling modifiers" sound. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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greedy_bones wrote: |
SPINOZA wrote: |
As a studier of Korean it'd be interesting to see what effect it has on that. |
Good sir, you are a teacher. Don't dangle your modifiers in front of the children.
Sorry, first grammar nazi post here, but I do love how obscene "dangling participles" and "dangling modifiers" sound. |
I hope this brings spinoza back. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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The smartest guy I know is a major pothead. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well it boosts something... when I use to take acid I saw things which were imposisble to see without it hahahahahaha
My pot days I turned into a philosopher
Coke and speed make you quick to think that�s for sure...
X... well ........................... hahahahahhaa
Drugs are cool! BUT remember
USE IT DON'T ABUSE IT!! |
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merlot

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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some of my best drugs have been induced by ideas |
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EzeWong

Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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For drugs like these the social impacts are unforseeable.
On the face of things, it seems like an obvious benefit to human kind. But thinking about it more deeply. I can see the implicatiosn of abuse and incredible changes to the school system and focus of our lives.
The other huge impact is on what happens to people who can't afford this drug. People who are already on hard times spiral further downwards as the elists climb even higher on the totem.
There's just so many potential problems that can occur. Not to mention... if intelligence is TRULY inherited, we might be doing the same thing as we did with antibotics... basically making humans weaker geneticaly as decades pass.
These are all thoughts and possibilites I'm pondering, nothing really proven or foreseeable like I said. |
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