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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: So what are some good career paths after this? |
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I've got the rest of this contract, and hopefully one more that I can deal with here, and then I think I'll have had more than enough. I should have around 30 grand saved up, so I'm considering some short term training for a new career as a possibility, but I'm not particularly interested in going back for a master's or anything long term.
I've also been working on learning Korean for a year now, still a long way to go, but if I were to get conversationally fluent would that open any doors to anything?
If anyone doesn't have any opinions or care about what I might be doing, perhaps they could share what their future plans are, might be helpful for the rest of us.
I know this a little serious for this board, but I've got faith in you people  |
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Tony_Balony

Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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My experience here plus my background has made me attractive to HR departments at technical schools and junior colleges. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Nick Geraci, eh.
Those who do not get the joke should go back to Hooker Hill and get laid by a Hooker or Something. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've also been working on learning Korean for a year now, still a long way to go, but if I were to get conversationally fluent would that open any doors to anything? |
It would be a good start to opening doors but it will depend on your other qualications and credentials.....
But, if you want to work non-ESL here, with fluent or high level Korean it can be done and well done at that.
Korean language with other qualifications can get you a job back home as well in many fields (government, private sector and so on). |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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juicyhumdinger

Joined: 03 Jan 2005
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on what you do with your free time. If you sit in front of a computer all day posting on internet message boards, you'll be in for a rude awakening
If you want to be marketable when you get back home, do some or all of the following:
-Develop your Korean language skills
-Study online or at a Korean university
-Write a book or start a blog about your experiences in Korea and / or teaching
-Develop hobbies / do volunteer work
You could easily find corporate work, or in international relations or with the government. All depends on what you do with your free time. That's one of the great things about ESL work is that you often do have the time to do many other things. . . |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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My buddies from a few years back who packed it in to go back to the U.S. and Canada pursued the following careers, and have done quite well by themselves:
1) PR (He has a degree in journalism)
2) Marketing (He has a degree in business)
3) Computer firm (He has a BS in math and an MBA in HR)
4) Teacher (He has his BA/MA in Ed. plus a specialty)
5) Trade (He has a degree in business and speaks 2 languages)
6) Architecture (Yup, he has a degree in architecture...go figure)
All of these people have done remarkably well in corporateland, USA/Canada. They all spent 2-2.5 years in Korea, lived it up, paid off all their debt, and continued to invest in themselves. Without exception, they are all working in jobs related to their undergrad/grad degrees. Now they all have well over the critical 5 years plus of experience in their respective fields, and are highly marketable to boot.
The marketing and PR guys said that their experience in Korea didn't hurt their career. In general, actually, their employers favoured them having had the experience. Same for the guys in education. The key for them was getting back 'home' so that they could get started on their career. I imagine it would have been tougher had they been out of the loop much longer. You have a degee in biology and you taught English in Korea for 8 years? NEXT! |
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dogshed

Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: |
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There are jobs out there that like teaching experience even if you don't have a certificate. For example some trucking companies will allow you to train other drivers after six months of driving on your own. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I've heard that public school job positions can count as time spent in public school jobs back in the US, but I don't know the logistics of it. Anyways, who wants to deal with NCLB? |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Those of you who want careers in very specific areas know what you need to do. For the rest of us, the big thing is getting home. I keep saying this. You want a good job? Way more important than what skills you have are the connections you make, and how you prove yourself. Two things you do not do here.
Study Korean? Attend a Korean University program? Blogs? Blah. Great hobbies and valuable life skills, so do these things if you want to. However, they're not an efficient way of chasing a career back in your home countries unless you are particularly talented at them and it shows, or you know specifically what you are trying to achieve. Fluent Korean with no other work experience or marketable skills will bring you what? A $1/hr raise at a call centre, if you speak Korean as fluent as a Kyopo?
Nobody is going to hire you based on what you know or what you think you know. You need to prove yourself first. You won't be doing that in Korea. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^
I feel like that's true, that's why I'm looking for ideas. Distance learning sounds probably like the best one.
I don't know, if one were to really master Korean, I think that would look impressive on a resume even if the job didn't necessarily involve speaking Korean. Maybe I'm way off here, but I thought something like that might put you over the top against other applicants. |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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kingplaya4 wrote: |
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I don't know, if one were to really master Korean, I think that would look impressive on a resume even if the job didn't necessarily involve speaking Korean. Maybe I'm way off here, but I thought something like that might put you over the top against other applicants. |
For some areas, yes. It would make a great secondary skill to have. Pursue it because it's interesting, because you're talented or passionate about it or whatever, but I wouldn't do it because its a great career builder, if thats all you care about. Second-language speakers are not in high demand in the Western world and for the career-minded individual there are a million other things you could do that would be equally as impressive (or shall I say, non-impressive).
It's not a binary thing. Anything you do can be potentially valuable as a career-builder, but what would sell better? Computer programming and web design skills or second language skills? Look at the job boards and do the math. As well, there are diminishing returns, and anything you do in Korea after living as an English teacher there for a year or two will be offset by the fact you are not in the right places at the right times, not meeting the right people, and not working towards the right certifications and job experiences.
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: |
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30 grand??good job! how did you do that? any tips? |
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Fresh Prince

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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kingplaya4 wrote: |
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I feel like that's true, that's why I'm looking for ideas. Distance learning sounds probably like the best one.
I don't know, if one were to really master Korean, I think that would look impressive on a resume even if the job didn't necessarily involve speaking Korean. Maybe I'm way off here, but I thought something like that might put you over the top against other applicants. |
It's really easy to forget foreign languages if you don't use them regularly. I know a lot of people that lost their language ability after three years of living at home, and never using it. I can't see a working professional finding many opportunities to use Korean regularly back home. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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How about being a fireman? Or a doctor? |
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