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Diploma issues... they want me to wait until WHEN?

 
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kamutflake



Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Location: Montreal, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Diploma issues... they want me to wait until WHEN? Reply with quote

Confused

So I thought I was all ready to go to S. Korea to teach. Timing was going to be tight, but it was doable. I have to go to Taiwan anyway for a school program, from July 22nd until mid-August, and I figured I would stay in the area while I was at it and celebrate my mid-summer graduation with a year long adventure.

But ohhhhhh. nooooooo. It couldn't be that easy.

No no now I find out I won't get my diploma until mid-November. So I guess I'm asking (and I guess I know what the answer will be) - would it be wisest for me to take my return ticket and go home to montreal and wait possibly until almost christmas to apply for a job in Korea (would they even be hiring then?). Or should I hope I bring enough money to live on/wait it out in a cheap country/get odd jobs and hope a tourist visa isn't TOO illegal to do that on? Yeah, I should probably go home and wait. Sad

Other question: if I've never gotten an E2 visa before and I decide to do it on my own, is that like, mission impossible? There's a consulate about a 6 hour bus ride away from the city, which isn't impossible, just inconvenient.

Um, one third question: what do you mean they don't have oats in that country? :O !

Fourth Question: anyone seen Crying Nut live before? How are they so good?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't come to Korea to work illegally. All you'll accomplish is making life harder for those of us who are working legally here.

Korea requires that you have the actual diploma, not just verification from your school that you have graduated and a diploma will be issued at a later date.

If you've never had an E-2 visa before in Korea, you'll be wasting your time and money by coming to Korea prior to having the consular interview in your home country. There is a chance that a Korean Consul in another country might waive the "in applicant's home country" rule, but do you really want to spend that much money on an off chance?

Oat meal is not a big item in this country. The popular method of getting fiber in one's diet is to drink a kind of soft drink, conveniently named "Hwa-i-ba" {Fiber}. When I was hospitalized for a month a couple of years ago, my visitors bringing me that stuff was a godsend!

Oh, I forgot something. Although Korea won't recognize the degree verification letter from your university in advance of your diploma, you still need to bring that letter with you along with the diploma. Yes, I know it's not logical. Be prepared for many governmental and work issues that are nowhere near logical and you'll do fine here.
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freakyaye852



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, you can use an apostilled copy of a letter of completion from your uni.I think the process has a diff name in Canada, but basically get the letter, take to lawyer, take to apostille office = good as original diploma.

One other thing, was your degree from an english uni? Language of instruction must be eng.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freakyaye852 wrote:
Actually, you can use an apostilled copy of a letter of completion from your uni.I think the process has a diff name in Canada, but basically get the letter, take to lawyer, take to apostille office = good as original diploma.

One other thing, was your degree from an english uni? Language of instruction must be eng.


Nope.

In Canada they must get it notarized then take it to the Korean consulate and have the consulate certify it. This only works with PS positions and he still needs to produce the original parchment BEFORE he can begin employment.

kamutflake wrote:
Other question: if I've never gotten an E2 visa before and I decide to do it on my own, is that like, mission impossible? There's a consulate about a 6 hour bus ride away from the city, which isn't impossible, just inconvenient.


You CANNOT do it on your own.

In order to get an E2 you need a visa confirmation number.

To get the visa confirmation number you need a sponsor (employer), signed contract and have submitted all the required documents to the immigration office (by your employer) in Korea.

Patience lad. There is no rush. There will still be lots of jobs here when you get your parchment in your hot little hand.

Enjoy the summer at home. Enjoy the comforts of home. Begin your "adventure" when it is time. Maybe take the time to get a TESOL so when you are dropped into a classroom you at least have some idea which end is up (sink or swim is common here).

Oh, and unless something actually changes (rather than just rumor and wishful thinking), you will need to return home for a consular interview AFTER you get your parchment and BEFORE you can get your first E2.

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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about a Korean consulate 6 hours away from Montreal?! There's one IN Montreal, in Place Ville Marie.

I also agree with everything ttompatz said.

And you can get oats here, just at a couple of places with imported stuff, and it will be expensive.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
And you can get oats here, just at a couple of places with imported stuff, and it will be expensive.


One could always have a "care package" mailed from home at regular intervals. Send it by the slow/cheap method.
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kamutflake



Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Location: Montreal, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the clarification! I guess it is best to wait and do this properly. Somehow I'm guessing that an extra handful of months to figure out the paperwork might be just what the doctor ordered... plus this way I can stay and audit a class on Chinese Politics & Religion that I was sad about missing, too, yay! Oh oh... and attend my own graduation ceremony and say goodbye to the family properly, you know, little things. Smile

ttompatz wrote:
Patience lad. There is no rush. There will still be lots of jobs here when you get your parchment in your hot little hand.

Somehow I'm flattered you thought I was a guy.

ttompatz wrote:
Enjoy the summer at home. Enjoy the comforts of home. Begin your "adventure" when it is time. Maybe take the time to get a TESOL so when you are dropped into a classroom you at least have some idea which end is up (sink or swim is common here).

Oh, and unless something actually changes (rather than just rumor and wishful thinking), you will need to return home for a consular interview AFTER you get your parchment and BEFORE you can get your first E2.

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Hmm. Fair enough. Getting some training might be a very, very good idea, and would fill up the non-school time in the interim. I have some teaching experience, but sending groups of little kids down a snowboard hill is probably just a bit different from chanting grammar at them... do you think with certification it would be easier to find a better/higher paying job, too, or do they look more to actual ESL experience?

littlelisa wrote:
Are you talking about a Korean consulate 6 hours away from Montreal?! There's one IN Montreal, in Place Ville Marie.

THANK YOU Shocked
life = 100% easier. or at least a whole day easier.

CentralCali wrote:
One could always have a "care package" mailed from home at regular intervals. Send it by the slow/cheap method.


This is probably exactly what I'll do. I kind of run on the stuff, like it's air or water. And it's really cheaper to ship it? And this could be kind of a crunchy-hippy question, but what kind of whole (un-rolled grains) are there available there, anyway? When I say oats, I'd actually be looking for oat groats.
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kamutflake



Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Location: Montreal, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Enjoy the summer at home. Enjoy the comforts of home.


also - alas, my lease is up in July, and my being homeless was part of the reasoning behind staying in Asia! But I'll figure that out. : P
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamutflake wrote:

This is probably exactly what I'll do. I kind of run on the stuff, like it's air or water. And it's really cheaper to ship it? And this could be kind of a crunchy-hippy question, but what kind of whole (un-rolled grains) are there available there, anyway? When I say oats, I'd actually be looking for oat groats.


You can get cornflakes at every corner store. Seriously, if you have a very specific diet, be prepared to shell out a lot of money and/or be inconvenienced, or else your diet is going to significantly change from what it is now. Korea's all about white rice. It's not too hard to find brown rice or barley though.

As for Crying Nut, they're OK. They have shows occasionally.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamutflake wrote:
Hmm. Fair enough. Getting some training might be a very, very good idea, and would fill up the non-school time in the interim. I have some teaching experience, but sending groups of little kids down a snowboard hill is probably just a bit different from chanting grammar at them... do you think with certification it would be easier to find a better/higher paying job, too, or do they look more to actual ESL experience?

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This is probably exactly what I'll do. I kind of run on the stuff, like it's air or water. And it's really cheaper to ship it? And this could be kind of a crunchy-hippy question, but what kind of whole (un-rolled grains) are there available there, anyway? When I say oats, I'd actually be looking for oat groats.


Your TESOL cert will, if it is like most, be geared toward teaching adults but some of it will help in things like classroom management. You can also get a "young learner" addition to it and that will help a lot.

It will also get you a pay grade bump if you head for a public school (+100k per month). It won't do much for you at a hakwon.

In regards to shipping stuff... it is EXPENSIVE from Canada, even by slow boat.

Most of what you seek IS available here - just not in brands you are used to. If you are in or close to Seoul, get a costco card. They have what you seek in brands that you are used to.
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