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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Location: Paradise
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: Men sound gay |
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In the past few years, I've noticed that American men increasingly sound gayer and gayer. If you listen to NPR (not the bastion of machismo, I admit), the broadcasters, professors, experts, etc. all sound increasingly gay.
I have a theory for this:
Since the rise of the single-family home, you have a lot of men who have been raised by women. Women have not only framed our identities and sexual politics (an entirely different problem), but they have also taught us how to speak. As such, we've increasingly developed effeminate speech patterns, and men sound gayer than ever before in human history.
What do you think, sweetie? |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| Since we spend more time talking on the cell phone than previous generations, we use a higher pitched voice to speak all the time. Younger generations have a higher speaking voice because it works better. I sang baritone in Choir, but have a very high voice for a 6' plus man. |
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Joe666
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Gentlemen - I belive the single family home is partly correct. It goes much further than that. Men are losing their masculinity due to multiple cultural aspects of our lovely planet. Men are slowly becoming obsolete due to equality of females, womens lib. etc. Women can have children without a male partner. Less males in the workforce (women taking positions that men would have acquired) leading to possibly these males staying at home, doing the chores etc. The equality aspect is a major contributor. I do not mean to sound sexist at all, just a fact. Plus the Y chromosome is a piece of shit. It's a decay product. Has been decaying for thousands of years. There will come a point in time (if humans don't self-extinguish) that there will be no male conterparts in the animal kingdom. It is already happening in some fish species. Since all of the animal kingdom originated in the seas, that would most likely be the place to first see the loss of the sexual male conterpart of a species. also, no more lands to conquer. A lot less wars are prevelent. There are a shit load of reasons for your comments!! |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Every now and then, I like to go into the woods, kill something, eat its heart raw (tradition), make a fire, and cook and eat its flesh out there, washing it down with quantities of beer. Afterward, satiated by the fresh meat and the thrill of the hunt, lying under the stars by the dying fire, I like to read a little Hemingway as I drift off to sleep.
Now I ask, is that gay? |
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aboxofchocolates

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: on your mind
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| Joe666 wrote: |
| Gentlemen - I belive the single family home is partly correct. It goes much further than that. Men are losing their masculinity due to multiple cultural aspects of our lovely planet. Men are slowly becoming obsolete due to equality of females, womens lib. etc. Women can have children without a male partner. Less males in the workforce (women taking positions that men would have acquired) leading to possibly these males staying at home, doing the chores etc. The equality aspect is a major contributor. I do not mean to sound sexist at all, just a fact. Plus the Y chromosome is a piece of shit. It's a decay product. Has been decaying for thousands of years. There will come a point in time (if humans don't self-extinguish) that there will be no male conterparts in the animal kingdom. It is already happening in some fish species. Since all of the animal kingdom originated in the seas, that would most likely be the place to first see the loss of the sexual male conterpart of a species. also, no more lands to conquer. A lot less wars are prevelent. There are a shit load of reasons for your comments!! |
I believe there is fossil evidence of extinct male fish carrying man-bags. |
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aboxofchocolates

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: on your mind
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| ReeseDog wrote: |
Every now and then, I like to go into the woods, kill something, eat its heart raw (tradition), make a fire, and cook and eat its flesh out there, washing it down with quantities of beer. Afterward, satiated by the fresh meat and the thrill of the hunt, lying under the stars by the dying fire, I like to read a little Hemingway as I drift off to sleep.
Now I ask, is that gay? |
I take it you don't read a whole lot of Anne Rice. Gayer than gay, dude, just ask any Lestat wannabe. |
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Joe666
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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aboxofchocolates Writes:
I believe there is fossil evidence of extinct male fish carrying man-bags.
I am assuming by your pseudo-name, you are a female. If you are serious about the above statement, then please elaborate on the man-bags reference. Thank You. |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| aboxofchocolates wrote: |
| ReeseDog wrote: |
Every now and then, I like to go into the woods, kill something, eat its heart raw (tradition), make a fire, and cook and eat its flesh out there, washing it down with quantities of beer. Afterward, satiated by the fresh meat and the thrill of the hunt, lying under the stars by the dying fire, I like to read a little Hemingway as I drift off to sleep.
Now I ask, is that gay? |
I take it you don't read a whole lot of Anne Rice. Gayer than gay, dude, just ask any Lestat wannabe. |
Didn't Anne Rice write a bunch of vampire stuff? Never read any of it.
When driving to my hunting area, I like to listen to classical music. It gets me in the mood for a relaxing day in the woods. I've gone hunting with friends sometimes, though, and they think my music choice plus my tendency to read something a bit deeper than Field and Stream is pretty limp-wristed.
I still take more game than any of them. |
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aboxofchocolates

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: on your mind
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: |
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aboxofchocolates Writes:
I believe there is fossil evidence of extinct male fish carrying man-bags.
I am assuming by your pseudo-name, you are a female. If you are serious about the above statement, then please elaborate on the man-bags reference. Thank You. |
Alright� near the end of the male fish reign there is evidence of an epidemic of fish dying of what appears to be blunt force trauma to the testes- fish �ball breaking� if you will.
Female skeletons also appear further and further away from fish homes in what appears to be the female fishes attempt to take over the duties of hunting, a role once reserved for the male fish. Since there was obviously not enough sustenance for both the male and female fish to both be hunting at the same time, mass starvation hit the fish populations.
However, female fish continued to hunt while still demanding a large portion of the male fish�s sustenance- scientists hypothesize they justified this by refusing to relinquish the privileges they enjoyed as wives and fish mothers, but no longer performing any of the accompanying duties.
In what scientists believe was a desperate attempt to survive, some weaker males of the fish population attempted to mimic the behavior of female fish in order to avail themselves of these privileges. Fossil evidence shows male fish at this time often wore �man bags�, excessively groomed their scales, and surrounded themselves with fish women while driving away other, stronger fish males by pretending to �sympathize� and �listen to� fish females (some fish at this time even show evidence of tear ducts activated at will).
Alas, it was all to no avail. Male fish were eventually selected out of existence, much to the detriment of the fish population as a whole as their weaker female fish leaders were unable to compete with testosterone charged predators and they sank to the bottom of the food chain.
I�m surprised you didn�t learn of this in high school biology- what are you, some sort of creationist or something? |
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Joe666
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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aboxofchocolates writes:I�m surprised you didn�t learn of this in high school biology- what are you, some sort of creationist or something?
To the contrary! You were joking about the above statement, YES! I am about 95% materialist (in evolution etc.) and the other 5% is holding out hope that there is a deity. That 5% is erroding very quickly I might add. As far as education goes, I can't remember very much from H.S. and my B.S. in the biology realm was geared more towards the health/human/cell/genetic frontier. The limited knowledge of evolution etc. I gained by reading post B.S. I love the acronym B.S. and it's duality. I never studied zoology,ecology or evolution in college. I wish I could have, but I had my hands full with other bio. and chem.
Your fish story still does not explain why at this point in time, male fish of some species are gone and the females of these species are providing offspring asexually. Your statement sounds like these facts happened thousands of years ago. And the opening statement "near the end of the male fish reign" makes it sound like there are no more male fish. I believe this hemaphroditic scenario is fairly new to scientists. Ma'am. |
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it's full of stars

Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: |
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rubric

Joined: 28 Oct 2006 Location: Pongdongfongyong
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Gentlemen - I belive the single family home is partly correct. It goes much further than that. Men are losing their masculinity due to multiple cultural aspects of our lovely planet. Men are slowly becoming obsolete due to equality of females, womens lib. etc. Women can have children without a male partner. Less males in the workforce (women taking positions that men would have acquired) leading to possibly these males staying at home, doing the chores etc. The equality aspect is a major contributor. I do not mean to sound sexist at all, just a fact. Plus the Y chromosome is a piece of shit. It's a decay product. Has been decaying for thousands of years. There will come a point in time (if humans don't self-extinguish) that there will be no male conterparts in the animal kingdom. It is already happening in some fish species. Since all of the animal kingdom originated in the seas, that would most likely be the place to first see the loss of the sexual male conterpart of a species. also, no more lands to conquer. A lot less wars are prevelent. There are a shit load of reasons for your comments!! |
Your Wimmins' Studies was a sad waste of time and money. Now you have nothing to contribute but some warped view of your own species imparted to you in the brainwashing process you called your degree. I suppose this is an inevitable result of compulsory education for the masses.
If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts.
Camille Paglia
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/camille_paglia.html |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe666 wrote: |
| Gentlemen - I belive the single family home is partly correct. It goes much further than that. Men are losing their masculinity due to multiple cultural aspects of our lovely planet. Men are slowly becoming obsolete due to equality of females, womens lib. etc. Women can have children without a male partner. Less males in the workforce (women taking positions that men would have acquired) leading to possibly these males staying at home, doing the chores etc. The equality aspect is a major contributor. I do not mean to sound sexist at all, just a fact. Plus the Y chromosome is a piece of shit. It's a decay product. Has been decaying for thousands of years. There will come a point in time (if humans don't self-extinguish) that there will be no male conterparts in the animal kingdom. It is already happening in some fish species. Since all of the animal kingdom originated in the seas, that would most likely be the place to first see the loss of the sexual male conterpart of a species. also, no more lands to conquer. A lot less wars are prevelent. There are a shit load of reasons for your comments!! |
Also the Y chromosone is much more suceptible to mutigens. Lots of chemicals harmless to females are very harmful to males.
I for 1 hope the human race becomes extinct. Imho it doesn't deserve to survive. But just like the roach or the rat we will most likely find a way. |
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Joe666
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Jesus it's hot down here!
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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rubric writes
Your Wimmins' Studies was a sad waste of time and money. Now you have nothing to contribute but some warped view of your own species imparted to you in the brainwashing process you called your degree. I suppose this is an inevitable result of compulsory education for the masses.
If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts.
Camille Paglia
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/camille_paglia.html
Those statements were not my personal view at all. They are the latest and greatest theories held by the science community. I believe I have plenty to contribute in regard to this subject. I obviously hit a tender spot on Mr. Rubric. To say my education was a sad waste of time and money really hurts my fragile ego and a brainy quote from one individual is almost meaningless to the subject at hand. I refuse to add to the discontent so frequently seen at Dave's and will end my message by saying I love you Mr. rubric and wish you a great day. |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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another possibility is plant estrogens. It has been theorized that they are one of the reasons why girls are entering puberty so early now a days. So it is not unreasonable to suggest they are having an affect upon guys as well.
But honestly I don't believe that guys voices are getting higher.
The first theory, single mothers, just what was the percentage of single mothers 20-30 years ago?
cell phones please
Joe666 are you suggesting pathogenesis? There is a reason why most of the animal kingdom (and even part of the plant kingdom) uses sexual reproduction. Without it there is no genetic variability and species quickly die out (which is why it is normally only seen in plant). If you are suggesting hermaphroditism? there is no evidence to suggest that women will develop male sexual organs or the reverse.
And the y chromosome a decay product. Why then do so many animals have a y chromosome (or equivalent xz, zw, xo) |
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