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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: Another Kennedy for the Senate? |
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*groan*
Another Kennedy for the Senate?
Oh, please, god, no.
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| Kennedy is currently President of the Kennedy Library Foundation,[4] a director of both the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and Honorary Chairman of the American Ballet Theatre. She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father. |
No more Kennedys. Please. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| driving chicks into a lake and date-raping bimbos aside, what's wrong with the Kennedys? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| CNN really seems to want to influence the process in its reporting on this. I, for one, think this would be just a good a choice as B. Clinton. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| CNN really seems to want to influence the process in its reporting on this. I, for one, think this would be just a good a choice as B. Clinton. |
No to either.
Bill Clinton should not take his wife's seat. That's as wrong as Beau Biden taking his dad's.
But almost as bad is Caroline freakin' Kennedy.
The Kennedys collectively are crooks. They are trust fund children of a criminal mastermind.
Caroline is probably the least worst, but is she qualified for the job? Nah. She's a Kennedy! Why doesn't Patterson appoint someone who's been working hard for New York for some time now? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Hello, Gore Vidal...
You would like G. Vidal's Washington, D.C., Kuros. I do. And I commend it to you, if you have the time to read a first-rate political novel that treats JFK rather harshly.
As far as the rest, everyone -- even the Kennedy Clan -- has pros and cons. One thing C. Kennedy might do is to partly restore faith in govt. The Kennedys, honestly or cynically, have always harnessed those kinds of forces very nicely in American politics. And we can use that kind of energy right now. That is why I would support her replacing H. Clinton. |
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seosan08
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I wish they'd put the Kennedy's, the Clinton's and the Michael Jackson's family on a slow boat across the Atlantic and sink it! |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, I just found two Leftist sources also against the Kennedy appointment. Yippee.
Firedoglake
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It's a truly terrible idea.
Her leadership could have been really helpful when the rest of us were trying to keep the progressive lights on and getting the stuffing beaten out of us by a very well-financed right wing for the past eight years. But when things were tough, she was nowhere to be found.
Now that the Democrats are in power, she'd like to come in at the top. We have absolutely no idea if she's qualified, or whether she can take the heat of being a Kennedy in public life. She's certainly shown no appetite for it in the past. She'll have a target on her back and if she can't take it, if she crumbles, she will become a rallying point that the right will easily organize around. |
Mahahahahahaahaha
Glenn Greenwald
Glenn takes on the larger theme of nepotism in our politics
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Bill Clinton yesterday was forced to deny speculation that he would be appointed to replace his wife in the U.S. Senate. Leading candidates for that seat still include John F. Kennedy's daughter (Caroline), Robert Kennedy's son (RFK, Jr.), and Mario Cuomo's son (Andrew). In Illinois, a leading contender to replace Barack Obama in the Senate is Jesse Jackson's son (Jesse, Jr.). In Delaware, it was widely speculated that Joe Biden would be replaced by his son, Beau, and after Beau took his name out of the running because he's now serving in Iraq, the naming of the actual replacement -- lone-time (Joe) Biden aide Ted Kaufmann -- "upset local Democrats who believe the move was a ham-handed attempt to engineer the election of Biden�s son, Beau, to the Senate in 2010."
Meanwhile, in Alaska, Lisa Murkowski, who was appointed by her father to take his seat in the U.S. Senate when he became Governor, yesterday warned Sarah Palin not to challenge her in a 2010 primary, a by-product of tension between those two as a result of Palin's defeat of Lisa's dad for Governor. In Florida, Mel Martinez's announcement that he won't seek re-election in 2010 immediately led to reports that the current President's brother, Jeb, might run for that seat. And all of that's just from the last couple of weeks.
The Senate alone -- to say nothing of the House -- is literally filled with people whose fathers or other close relatives previously held their seat or similar high office (those links identify at least 15 current U.S. Senators -- 15 -- with immediate family members who previously occupied high elected office). And, of course, the current President on his way out was the son of a former President and grandson of a former U.S. Senator. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| The Kennedys collectively are crooks. They are trust fund children of a criminal mastermind. |
And how would this distinguish them from, say, the Bushes?
But if you think "No More Bushes!" either, then I could see your point. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Glen Greenwald (my absolute favorite lefty writer) makes an excellent argument there. From what I saw on CNN in very brief passing today (so I might be mistaken) Jessie Jackson Jr is being considered for Obama's seat. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm...8 years in the Senate. She'd only be 59 in 2016 and ripe to take on Sarah Palin (52) in the '16 campaign for the presidency.
(Edited for wretchedly bad math.) |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Hmmm...8 years in the Senate. She'd only be 59 in 2016 and ripe to take on Sarah Palin (52) in the '16 campaign for the presidency.
(Edited for wretchedly bad math.) |
Perfect. She'd make Palin look qualified for office.  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Ahem!
Caroline has (had?) a tattoo. That alone makes her more qualified than your girl Sarah.
Pix and article here:
During a night out in Hong Kong, Caroline, her brother, John F. Kennedy Jr., and her cousins Edward "Teddy" Kennedy Jr., 47, and Kara Anne Kennedy, 48, challenged one another with a mischievous dare, a source said, noting that the group had consumed a few drinks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/09/caroline-kennedys-tattoo_n_149674.html |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Caroline way cooler at a party than Sarah is. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Could it be 
"New details this morning as Caroline Kennedy starts her bid to claim Hillary Clinton�s vacated Senate seat. According to The New York Times, Kennedy has called several prominent New York machers and plans an upstate trip similar to Clinton�s famous �listening tour� to firm up support. Sources close to Gov. David Paterson, who will make the appointment, say that Kennedy is now a �clear front-runner.� �The upside of her candidacy is that the 2010 ballot will read Kennedy-Paterson,� a source told the paper. �David craves national attention and money. If you connect the dots, it leads to her.� A source tells the Daily News, �She is in.� The New York Post reports that Kennedy has the quiet support of New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/#cheatrow_1524
With Uncle Teddy on his last legs, Caroline has to get the appointment. Without a Kennedy, it wouldn't be an official Senate. |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| She's number 9 on my Dead Pool. |
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