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[mises]

[BS.Dos.]

Seeing the Daily Mail has reminded me that I must buy some ass paper tomorrow.

Rag of choice for the fascist housewife.

[On the other hand]

Well, I wouldn't exactly call these the most substantial pieces of journalism I've ever read. The first article is ambiguous about who is actually enforcing this on the Salvation Army, and quotes only a couple of SA members themselves as saying that it was done out of sensitivity to other religions.

[mises]

So, in other words, members of the SA were told to stop making noise for fear of offending muslims, a government official told a lady to take down xmas lights for fear of offending muslims (though apparently acted alone) and a man and his guide dog offended muslims and were ejected from an eatery, though the non-muslim who waa scared of offending his muslim employees apologized.

Meanwhile:

[On the other hand]

[mises]

[mises]

Meanwhile:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/damian_thompson/blog/2008/12/17/exclusive_60_per_cent_of_britains_muslim_schools_have_extremist_links_report_says

[Neil]

1, Multi-cult doesn't always = islam, they make up only a part of the UKs foreign community. Indians, Chinese and West Indians are in just as equal or greater numbers. - edit I forgot about the Poles who seem to be over in large numbers and the Australians pouring pints in Earls Court complaining about the weather of course.

2, The UK is actually very mono-cultural, Americans/Canadians just assume it's the other way because they only usually visit London, which is I'd guess 30% ethnic, outside of London it's less than 10%.

3, The media in the UK is pretty much Broadcast=liberal, Print=Conservative. Out of about 10 daily papers only the Guardian is liberal. The Mirror used to be but it's in decline thesedays. The Mail in particular is a terrible source as they've got form for running these kind of stories without checking the facts before.

4, The Islamic community in the UK is not as you believe a result of white guilt, political correctness..."let am all come in", it's more down to a mixture of colonial misadventures and a need for educated English speaking immigrants in the aftermath of WW2. As a result those who could afford it from the ME and the subcontinent came over around 60 years ago, it's not a recent thing. We have been living with this for a long time with little problems until recently which brings me to.......the fact that the 7/7 bombers and others were not western hating immigrants getting in through the back door but rather the sons and grandsons of these guys who came in the 50s and 60s (and incidentially were far more sucessful economically than other immigrant groups) somehow getting radialised into extream Islam (which from annecdotal sp? evidence the older lot are very unhappy about).......the solution is education IMO.

5, The public and government are well aware of the problems and rather than worshipping at an imaginary PC alter are IMO working hard to end the ghettoision (is that a word?) of these twats (you can't deport folks born in your country) the far right in the UK were doing well a few years ago but have died down since which is a good sign.

[On the other hand]

Neil, interesting post. Thanks for that.

[ED209]

The Salvation Army article doesn't specify which religion would be offended. It could be Islam, Hindu or any of the many branches of Christianity. All the Mail has is one unnamed member who heard it from someone else that it may offend other religions. It sounds more likely to be about noise complaints. Rattling cans may make shoppers feel harassed. I've always found them civil.

But, yeah, don't read the Mail. It's the Bill O'Reilly of newspapers.

[doc_ido]

You could have posted the exact same links this time last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. Every right-wing rag prints some "in case we offend Muslims" stories around Christmas, just in case the warm and welcoming Brits forget they're supposed to hate them.

On the SA subject, actually all charity collectors were asked to stop shaking tins several years ago because it made people who didn't donate feel uncomfortable.