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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: Is this sentence grammatically correct? |
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I think this chicken is more delicious than that chicken
I've been telling my teachers that they can't use the word "delicious" like that.
It just sounds so awkward to me |
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Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| I see nothing wrong with it. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| looks fine to me. Sounds like the person speaking or writing that is talking about two different kinds of fried chicken and they like one more than the other. What's wrong with using delicious to describe chicken? Maybe you're thinking the chickens are uncooked? |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: |
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i will admit that gramatically, it looks fine.
but doesn't the sentence sound sorta awkward? |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| It's not incorrect. Your spidey sense is tingling because we generally do not use the adjective delicious in a comparative sentence. We generally say A tastes better than B. |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| It's not incorrect. Your spidey sense is tingling because we generally do not use the adjective delicious in a comparative sentence. We generally say A tastes better than B. |
That's exactly what I told the teachers. I told them to start using "tastes better than".
After a month of hearing how every single korean dish on earth tastes "delicious" and hearing "let's eat at a delicious" restaurant, and "this restaurant is not delicious", I just snapped and told them to stop using the word. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: |
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you've been telling your teachers... ?
what are you, an overly anal know-it-all, splittin' hairs assistant director?
| mayorgc wrote: |
| I just snapped and told them to stop using the word. |
how bossy of you
where do you get off? seriously... |
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mmace1
Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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I think in general Koreans (& probably other nationalities) learn adjectives that are specific to a situation, so they say 'delicious' instead of 'good', or 'kind' for 'nice', etc. That way they remove ambiguity when learning definitions.
The sentence is grammatically fine. The thing is...it implies both chicken dishes are really really good (delicious), only one is more delicious than the other.
Maybe, what they mean, is just that one is better (tastes better) than the other, without implying that both dishes are extremely good. |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
you've been telling your teachers... ?
what are you, an overly anal know-it-all, splittin' hairs assistant director?
| mayorgc wrote: |
| I just snapped and told them to stop using the word. |
how bossy of you
where do you get off? seriously... |
haha, i think you're taking things too literal. I've gotta teach an english convo class to the teachers, so today, before i ended class, i explained to them that they were using the word delicious wrong. "this restaurant is delicious". i didn't literally snap, haha |
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The evil penguin

Joined: 24 May 2003 Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| I gotta say, i agree with the OP. Yes, it is grammatically correct, but what's with the over-use of 'delicious'? Seriously, I don't think I EVER use the word back home... but in korea and here in china its as if they get a bonus pack of free steak knives every time they trot it out... |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Location: left Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: ,, |
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OP
more delicious is incorrect |
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The evil penguin

Joined: 24 May 2003 Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: Re: ,, |
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| maingman wrote: |
OP
more delicious is incorrect |
i'd prefer that to '..... deliciouser than ......' |
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Been There, Taught That

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Of course, in advocating the phrase 'more delicious', you are promoting the native habit of saying it one's own way, just so the message gets across. It can be said, usage-wise, and it has meaning. Freedom of usage is a native trait, but can be taught.. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans do tend to over-use the word 'delicious'. Way over-use. It's one of the examples when I teach 'pet peeve'. I try to get my students to use it only in an answer. I teach the idea of 'fishing for compliments' and asking: "Is that delicious?" is fishing for a compliment.
I think the basic problem here is the lack of language to describe degrees. It's the same thing as students describing all days as either 'hot' or 'cold' and nothing in between. |
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dbmctague
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I say let them use the language the way they want, unless you're going for accuracy. I always made my ex laugh when I spoke german to her. I would want to have fun with the language and one time lying in bed I said "Es gibt eine Abwesenheit von Kopfkissen"...there's an absence of pillows! instead of simply "es gibt kein Kopfkissen"....there's no pillow. She cracked up so hard. |
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