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Is this sentence grammatically correct?
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Is this sentence grammatically correct? Reply with quote

I think this chicken is more delicious than that chicken

I've been telling my teachers that they can't use the word "delicious" like that.

It just sounds so awkward to me
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see nothing wrong with it.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks fine to me. Sounds like the person speaking or writing that is talking about two different kinds of fried chicken and they like one more than the other. What's wrong with using delicious to describe chicken? Maybe you're thinking the chickens are uncooked?
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will admit that gramatically, it looks fine.

but doesn't the sentence sound sorta awkward?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not incorrect. Your spidey sense is tingling because we generally do not use the adjective delicious in a comparative sentence. We generally say A tastes better than B.
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
It's not incorrect. Your spidey sense is tingling because we generally do not use the adjective delicious in a comparative sentence. We generally say A tastes better than B.


That's exactly what I told the teachers. I told them to start using "tastes better than".

After a month of hearing how every single korean dish on earth tastes "delicious" and hearing "let's eat at a delicious" restaurant, and "this restaurant is not delicious", I just snapped and told them to stop using the word.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you've been telling your teachers... ? Shocked

what are you, an overly anal know-it-all, splittin' hairs assistant director?

mayorgc wrote:
I just snapped and told them to stop using the word.

how bossy of you

where do you get off? seriously...
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mmace1



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think in general Koreans (& probably other nationalities) learn adjectives that are specific to a situation, so they say 'delicious' instead of 'good', or 'kind' for 'nice', etc. That way they remove ambiguity when learning definitions.

The sentence is grammatically fine. The thing is...it implies both chicken dishes are really really good (delicious), only one is more delicious than the other.

Maybe, what they mean, is just that one is better (tastes better) than the other, without implying that both dishes are extremely good.
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mayorgc



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
you've been telling your teachers... ? Shocked

what are you, an overly anal know-it-all, splittin' hairs assistant director?

mayorgc wrote:
I just snapped and told them to stop using the word.

how bossy of you

where do you get off? seriously...


haha, i think you're taking things too literal. I've gotta teach an english convo class to the teachers, so today, before i ended class, i explained to them that they were using the word delicious wrong. "this restaurant is delicious". i didn't literally snap, haha
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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gotta say, i agree with the OP. Yes, it is grammatically correct, but what's with the over-use of 'delicious'? Seriously, I don't think I EVER use the word back home... but in korea and here in china its as if they get a bonus pack of free steak knives every time they trot it out...
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: ,, Reply with quote

OP

more delicious is incorrect
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The evil penguin



Joined: 24 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: ,, Reply with quote

maingman wrote:
OP

more delicious is incorrect


i'd prefer that to '..... deliciouser than ......'
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, in advocating the phrase 'more delicious', you are promoting the native habit of saying it one's own way, just so the message gets across. It can be said, usage-wise, and it has meaning. Freedom of usage is a native trait, but can be taught..
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans do tend to over-use the word 'delicious'. Way over-use. It's one of the examples when I teach 'pet peeve'. I try to get my students to use it only in an answer. I teach the idea of 'fishing for compliments' and asking: "Is that delicious?" is fishing for a compliment.

I think the basic problem here is the lack of language to describe degrees. It's the same thing as students describing all days as either 'hot' or 'cold' and nothing in between.
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dbmctague



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say let them use the language the way they want, unless you're going for accuracy. I always made my ex laugh when I spoke german to her. I would want to have fun with the language and one time lying in bed I said "Es gibt eine Abwesenheit von Kopfkissen"...there's an absence of pillows! instead of simply "es gibt kein Kopfkissen"....there's no pillow. She cracked up so hard.
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