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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Bad influenced Obama (PC-edited) Reply with quote

Let's try this again. Apparently, it is not OK to quote some things from mainstream media articles in thread titles.

Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama

New details about a black poet in Hawaii who was a key early influence in Barack Obama�s life can be revealed by The Telegraph.

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 9:25PM BST 24 Aug 2008


Barack Obama visited Mr Davis on several occasions to get his advice when he was grappling with racial issues.

Although identified only as Frank in Mr Obama�s memoir Dreams from My Father, it has now been established that he was Frank Marshall Davis, a radical activist and journalist who had been suspected of being a member of the Communist Party in the 1950s.

Obama's true colours: Making of the man who would be US president

A bohemian libertine who drank heavily and loved jazz, he became friends with Stanley Dunham, Mr Obama�s maternal grandfather in the 1960s. Mr Davis died in 1987 at the age of 81, five years before Mr Dunham.

�He knew Stan real well,� said Dawna Weatherly-Williams, a close friend of Mr Davis �They�d play Scrabble and drink and crack jokes and crack jokes and argue. Frank always won and he was always very braggadocio about it too. It was all jocular. They didn�t get polluted drunk. And Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together.�

While his mother was in Indonesia during part of his teenage years, Mr Obama lived with his white grandparents. Mrs Weatherly-Williams said that the poet was first introduced to the future Democratic presidential candidate in 1970 at the age of 10.

�Stan had been promising to bring Barry by because we all had that in common - Frank�s kids were half-white, Stan�s grandson was half-black and my son was half-black. We all had that in common and we all really enjoyed it. We got a real kick out of reality.�

In his memoir, Mr Obama recounts how he visited Mr Davis on several occasions, apparently at junctures when he was grappling with racial issues, to seek his counsel. At one point in 1979 Mr Davis described university as �an advanced degree in compromise� that was designed to keep blacks in their place.

Mr Obama quoted him as saying: �Leaving your race at the door. Leaving your people behind. Understand something, boy. You�re not going to college to get educated. You�re going there to get trained.�

He added that �they�ll tank on your chain and let you know that you may be a well-trained, well-paid nigger, but you�re a nigger just the same.�

It has also been established that Mr Davis, who divorced in 1970, was the author of a hard-core pornographic autobiography published in San Diego in 1968 by Greenleaf Classics under the pseudonym Bob Greene.

�I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.� In the introduction to Sex Rebel, Mr Davis (writing as Greene) explains that although he has �changed names and identities�all incidents I have described have been taken from actual experiences�.

He stated that �under certain circumstances I am bisexual� and that he was � a voyeur and an exhibitionist� who was �occasionally mildly interested in sado-masochism�, adding: �I have often wished I had two penises to enjoy simultaneously the double � but different � sensations of oral and genital copulation.�

The book, which closely tracks Mr Davis�s life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex.

One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her. �I�m not one to go in for Lolitas. Usually I�d rather not bed a babe under 20.

�But there are exceptions. I didn�t want to disappoint the trusting child. At her still-impressionistic age, a rejection might be traumatic, could even cripple her sexually for life.�

He then described how he and his wife would have sex with the girl. �Anne came up many times the next several weeks, her aunt thinking she was in good hands. Actually she was.

�She obtained a course in practical sex from experienced and considerate practitioners rather than from ignorant insensitive neophytes�.I think we did her a favour, although the pleasure was mutual.�



That was so thoughtful of him! - bac

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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'alleged Communist'...

So the problem isn't that Obama is black and white, it's that he's RED. Shocked

Oh my!
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
'alleged Communist'...


In this article it only said "alleged," but others say it outright:

From Accuracy in Media:

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This interest has been growing because of the continuing controversy over Obama�s relationship with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and other controversial far-left figures, including his childhood mentor, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bacasper: no one possessing any intelligence at all believes any of that for a nanosecond. McCain-Palin's handlers tried to exploit it as a hail-mary campaign tactic to turn things around late-October and it failed.

End of the line. Your source seems a little slow on American affairs.

Meanwhile, B. Obama's approval ratings remain extremely high...
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher: Are you saying that Davis and grampa were not friends, and that Obama never met him? If so, I'd like to see the refutation of the article.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Gopher: Are you saying that Davis and grampa were not friends, and that Obama never met him? If so, I'd like to see the refutation of the article.


Bacasper:

I, personally, am not denying that Obama might have known Davis, or that Davis at some points in his life engaged some questionable practices.

What I might dispute is the relevance of all this. Did Obama know about Davis� sex with the 13-year old? Hard to see why he would mention Davis by name in his autobiography if he was aware of that aspect of his life. And Davis� book was published under a pseudonym, so it seems quite possible that Obama would not have known he had written it.

And if Obama didn�t know about Davis� sex crimes, what is the relevance of the story?

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Apparently, it is not OK to quote some things from mainstream media articles in thread titles.


Can you direct me to the mainstream media article that used the word �nigger� to describe a black person? That was the word you used, and I gotta admit, I am really curious about which respectable media outlet uses such terminology these days.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
bacasper wrote:
Gopher: Are you saying that Davis and grampa were not friends, and that Obama never met him? If so, I'd like to see the refutation of the article.


Bacasper:

I, personally, am not denying that Obama might have known Davis, or that Davis at some points in his life engaged some questionable practices.

What I might dispute is the relevance of all this. Did Obama know about Davis� sex with the 13-year old? Hard to see why he would mention Davis by name in his autobiography if he was aware of that aspect of his life. And Davis� book was published under a pseudonym, so it seems quite possible that Obama would not have known he had written it.

And if Obama didn�t know about Davis� sex crimes, what is the relevance of the story?

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Apparently, it is not OK to quote some things from mainstream media articles in thread titles.


Can you direct me to the mainstream media article that used the word �nigger� to describe a black person? That was the word you used, and I gotta admit, I am really curious about which respectable media outlet uses such terminology these days.

We do not know if BO knew of Davis' sexploits, but we do know that he could not have known all the details of his life. Anyway, it doesn't matter; the point is the man who did these things was someone to whom Obama went for advice on multiple occasions.

It is hard to imagine you missed in the article where Davis told BO "you're a nigger" since it was bolded, but if you really did go back and reread it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is hard to imagine you missed in the article where Davis told BO "you're a nigger" since it was bolded, but if you really did go back and reread it.


No, I saw that. But I did not connect it to your use of the word in the thread title. Sorry, I guess, but it wasn't really clear from your title that you were quoting someone, much less that you were quoting him with disapproval.

I do believe your explanation, though, because, like I say, you do not seem like a racist to me. I think your thread title was maybe a bit of a bungled attempt at irony.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OTOH: I don't know if you saw the word with or without quotes in the first thread. I tried to put the word in quotes at first, but I could not get all I wanted into the title, so I left them out. I wnet back and squeezed them in after some the initial responders misunderstood.

Obviously, quotes mean I was quoting someone, specifically in the posted article.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
OTOH: I don't know if you saw the word with or without quotes in the first thread. I tried to put the word in quotes at first, but I could not get all I wanted into the title, so I left them out. I wnet back and squeezed them in after some the initial responders misunderstood.

Obviously, quotes mean I was quoting someone, specifically in the posted article.


No, I think I saw it before you put the quotes in.
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Don Gately



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus, he's a goddamn communist? Why the hell didn't you post this before the election?

What if he gets in there and starts nationalizing the banks? Or throwing a bunch of federal money at private enterprises, blurring the line between business and government?
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don Gately wrote:
Jesus, he's a goddamn communist? Why the hell didn't you post this before the election?

What if he gets in there and starts nationalizing the banks? Or throwing a bunch of federal money at private enterprises, blurring the line between business and government?

Good point (even though the story is actually from August).

Obama, Bush "united" on economy.

"Full recovery will not happen immediately," Obama said at a news conference in Chicago. "And to make the investments we need, we'll have to scour our federal budget, line by line, and make meaningful cuts and sacrifices as well, something I will be discussing further tomorrow."

As he unveiled his economic team Monday, Obama called the financial crisis one of "historic proportions" and said that he and the Bush administration are "united" in their efforts to get the economy back on track.

He said there isn't "a minute to waste" when it comes to rebuilding the economy.

"My commitment is to do what is required. President Bush has indicated that he has the same approach, the same attitude," Obama said.

I hope by now people have been disabused of this idea that there will be some significant difference between the administrations, AND also that I am seriously wrong about this.
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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately Barack Obama is also not a sentient being. He is, in fact, a kind of robot, incapable of making his own decisions or separating right from wrong, and completely dependent upon all the bad people he has ever met to tell him what to do.

He has obviously been programmed by pot-smoking pedophiles to turn America into a nation of hippie child molesters.
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