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allbyb



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Question about raising a bilingual child Reply with quote

My son (who is half Korean) is now 2 years old and can still only say a few words.
Have any of you who have bilingual children found that there oral language development has been slower than other children (although he can't speak much my son understands both Korean and English very well)?
Wherever we go people are always surprised that he doesn't speak and I'm wondering whether a visit to a speach therapist is necessary.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could share their own experiences.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although, I do not have a child, my friend who has a baby like yours said that babies who grow up hearing two languages generally learn to speak later that single language babies, but in the end have a much larger vocabulary (obvious), so I think you should have no worries.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
Although, I do not have a child, my friend who has a baby like yours said that babies who grow up hearing two languages generally learn to speak later that single language babies, but in the end have a much larger vocabulary (obvious), so I think you should have no worries.


I don't think one visit to a speech therapist would be that expensive, and it would be better to check it out by a professional just in case. Plus, if there is a problem, it would be much better to nip it now before your child learns any bad habits (which will be much harder to get rid of later in life).
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JiWoo



Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Location: America

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a couple people who have had their kids begin talking late and are fine. But I too would suggest seeing a therapist or doctor to be safe. I have a friend who's son didn't talk for a long time and she thought he was fine and learned later that he is autistic. I'm sure that's not the case with your son b/c he's hearing two languages and my friend's kid was not. But I'm just saying it's better to check it out early on in my opinion.
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Spiky



Joined: 29 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really wouldn't worry about it. Studies have shown that bilingual kids generally tend to start talking later (sometimes at around age 3) but within a year or two they are totally caught up and are at level in both languages. So don't worryabout it! It's coming! Relax and enjoy your little one!

One more idea, some parents have used a sign language type system--needn't be formal, but just casual common sense gestures to signify different meanings that helps aid communication until the words start coming.

Good luck and try not to stress about it--there's too much competition in the world today to outdo and outshine & try nto to let your kids get sucked into it. Give it a year--just spend a lot of time talking with your child and reading books to him/her and he/she will develop at his/her own pace.
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two bilingual kids....5 and 3...and they both took a little extra time to start speaking. Now you can't shut the 5 year old up. I would put off the visit to the speech therapist at least for a bit. You would/will be amazed at how fast it comes when the kid is ready to speak.
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My child grew up bilingual, and yes she did speak slower than most kids. Not that much more, but by a few months. (She started speaking right at 24 months too.)

I was kind of freaked out too, and started to read to her books in English. It was a picture book and I would gesture with the pictures and just have fun making stupid faces about the pictures and having fun with it.

I was considering taking her to a speech thearapist if that kept up for another month or two, but she started talking. Even now, she is a methodical thinker and speaker and she is very imaginative. Just not the rapid speed, rapid talker type. (I teach her English writing now--after many many months of my wife nagging me to do so--and it is now my favorite time of the week to teach her!) (My wife had set her up with other tutors who taught her the English to where she can write in English some original sentences--people are surprised by the fact that I did not teacher her myself Rolling Eyes )

It has become a habit now to read to her and I still read to her sometimes eventhough now she is 10 years old. Studies do document that kids growing up in a bilingual family start to speak slower (I remember too from my college linguistics class--Chompsky et al).

It's fun to read to her still, and she's really cute about it even now. She'll turn her back when she's sleeping (because she is a girl now) and listen and turn way around and correct me if I skipped a sentence or mis-said a line, just when I thought she was asleep. She is infront of me reading a Korean kids newspaper (Kids Chosun Ilbo) while I post this. She kills me. She is the most precious thing I have in my life.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:
I have two bilingual kids....5 and 3...and they both took a little extra time to start speaking. Now you can't shut the 5 year old up. I would put off the visit to the speech therapist at least for a bit. You would/will be amazed at how fast it comes when the kid is ready to speak.


Seriously, why would you say that? One trip to the speech therapist is not that expensive, nor that much time. It will probably be a waste of time, but who knows. Do you know how many women should have gone to the doctor the second they found a little bump?
To the OP, go, it's not a big deal, and it will at the very least relieve you of any worry (ie stress) you feel about it (which in itself is worth it).
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peony



Joined: 30 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 3 year old nephew only just recently started speaking in full sentences, speech was slow in coming as he is growing up in a bilingual family though, other friends i know that spoke only korean at home had their kids speaking much faster

dont worry about it, my sister did freak a bit earlier on but he's just fine now and has the advantage of being bilingual

i've also read somewhere that boys start speaking a bit slower than girls
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betchay



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have two nieces and four nephews who are filipino-americans... they grew up in america but are fluent in both filipino (with a twang) and english...

read these articles from the babycenter...

http://www.babycenter.com/dilemma/toddler/toddlerdevelopment/1225939.html
http://parentcenter.babycenter.com/expert/bigkid/gdevelopment/71103.html

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Question: Will my Spanish-speaking caregiver slow my child��s language development?

Answer: In the short run, possibly. In the long run, no. Researchers have found that exposing kindergartners to more than one language from someone who is fluent and interactive ultimately helps their language skills. By the time your child reaches her later elementary school years, you may see her demonstrating above-average vocabulary and comprehension skills. She also may have an easier time picking up other new languages. It's important, though, that your child keep the two languages separate — if your caregiver is speaking Spanish to your child, it should be consistently Spanish.

Combining Spanish and English makes it confusing for your little one to separate the different verbal rules that are important for mastering a language.

If it's important to you that your child continue learning her caregiver's language, then encourage the sitter to read books, show videos, and sing songs to your child in the foreign language. They're all fun ways to keep the second language alive for a 5-year-old, and expose her to the caregiver's culture too. Your daughter will have plenty of opportunities to speak English at school and at home with you.

Sometimes children who are exposed to two languages in equal amounts do have slightly less developed language skills in each language, compared with children who have focused on learning a single language. This should improve over time. Down the road, though, your child will most likely benefit from this bilingual opportunity.

Only if your child has any documented speech-language disorders or delays, such as autism, hearing impairment, Down syndrome, or severe articulation problems, can tackling two languages harm her development. In these cases, the child should focus on learning just one language — mastering two could be too confusing.
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously, why would you say that? One trip to the speech therapist is not that expensive, nor that much time. It will probably be a waste of time, but who knows. Do you know how many women should have gone to the doctor the second they found a little bump?


I would say that because I what I know about bilingualism and language acquisition. I did a lot of research into bilingualism when I was doing my Masters work on how bilingual kids learn to read and write. It is not uncommon for bilingual kids to take some time to start speaking. Heck, even some kids with a single language sometimes take some time to start speaking.

All kids develop differently. If the child was older then I might suggest looking into the problem but since it is not at all uncommon for bilingual kids to speak later, I see no problem waiting. It can't hurt to wait. On the other hand, putting pressure on young learners to produce langugage spoken or written before they are ready can cause problems. So I would wait.


And seriously...are you making a comparison betweem speaking/language learning and breast cancer...??
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Binch Lover



Joined: 25 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was raised as a bilingual (French and English) child and apparently I couldn't really tell the difference between the two languages for a long time and spoke a mix of the two. But in the end I guess I managed to sort it out in my head and everything worked out fine. The best thing is that I now speak fluent unaccented French despite never having lived there for more than 2 or 3 months and don't really need to practice it very much to keep it up. If I speak to French people they assume I am also French, but I do tend to forget some vocabulary. So your kid could have a lifetime of bilingualism (word?) if you keep it up and don't worry!
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say for sure yet as our son is only 1 but he uses both English and Korean when he speaks (just basic words) and responds equally well to either language.

I speak English only to him and my wife uses Korean only.

My brother has kids and is married to a Japanese woman (they live in tokyo) their oldest started speaking for real at the age of 1.5-2 and by the age of 5 spoke equally well in English, Japanese and French!

Some kids raised in multi-lingual households do take a bit longer to speak but if the parents are persistant and stick to a structured language environment, the kids pick it up in a snap.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on you don��t you need a therapist... He is only 2 years old!
Some children are shy, confused! he must understand that what he is hearing are two different languages but cant understand why yet so he is just trying to figure it out! Give him time! Do not push him, especially taking him to therapists, and then he will think something is wrong, you will all think that! Trust me! My daughter is now 8 years old non-Korean age!
And she started as not the fastest speaker compared to some other hakwon driven kids around! However, this is not a competition on who speaks first! She did fine and slowly started speaking with full correct sentences as a normal child in Korean.
NOW I had my wife speak only Korean to her for the first 4 years until she started kindergarten and I spoke only English to her, of course her ability to speak English was not as good as her Korean which I let her take her time and we slowly got her there, she started school at 4 and I told my wife from now we both speak only English to her When we are together. Because she gets enough Korean at school and with friends and when she is only with mum, we did this for 2 years and it brought her ability right up! Now of course she was not perfect as a foreign child her age. So I was worrying about that, so I sent her to my mum��s house for 3 months in NEW ZEALAND and put her in school there and she came but perfectly fluent! Now she speaks and writes FLUENT Korean, and speaks very good English, her writing is not good, so that is what we will slowly work on!
It is not a race, but she is orally fluent in both languages! In addition, she will soon study a third language because Korean and English are like her first language, so she needs a second language...

but back to the original question, I wouldn��t worry about a therapist just relax and keep doing what you are doing, teach him slowly, play games, let him watch a lot of English TV shows and just take it step by step.
It is confusing for a 2-year-old child to hear two different languages, and he is at the age now where he is sensing something is different. Just like one day, he stood up and one day he started walking. He will just start talking.
P.S don��t fall into the my son needs to be #1 routine, he doesn��t need any pressure , leave that to the crazy obsessed Agamas..
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spark05



Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son is, unfortunately, not bilingual but I did speak a lot of Korean to him when he was a baby. My Korean at the time was at about a 3 yo level so I kind of hit a wall. But I'm hoping that now that we're living in Korea he'll pick it up quickly because he was exposed.

It kind of depends on the personality of the child as well. Some children wait to talk until they have it all sorted out in their head...the types who think before they act. Others will speak what they know then adjust it as they learn...the type of act before they think. But the best way to help language development - read tons of books and turn off the TV. I think most research leans towards that the children will have a larger word base if you combine both languages than monolingual kids by the time they start school (kindergarten, probably).
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