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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: After school programs OK? |
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Anyone worked at (or working) one of these jobs? Are they up front with the pay or do they force you to open a new bank account and give them the pin?
Are any of these jobs OK or are they even more prone to scammers because of their special situation?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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So nobody has a clue? Come on.... someone must know something.
Please, I don't know whether to apply for one of these or not.
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I got the impression some do that scam...but others don't....be upfront about the seperate bank account issue...we have a hagwon coming in and so far they seem pretty responsible for after school programs.... |
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DeLaRed
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| for the benefit of us newbies can anyone explain this scam that these afterschool programs are pulling? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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They tell you to open a new bank account, into which they pay your salary and the recruiters fees. They tell you to give one card and pin to your recruiter so he can take his money out.
It's some kind of tax avoidance scam, if you do get paid everything you are entitled to...eventually you will get a call from the tax office saying you owe taxes on the full amount that passed through your bank account.
It's OK if you like living dangerously, I suppose. |
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Lucky28
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: in the process myself |
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I have recently been in contact with one of these "after school companies" but have never actually worked for one. In my case, the company says it administers the student fees paid by the school. However, for some reason, the school can only pay the fees directly to the teacher and so a new bank account must be opened to enable the transfer of funds from the school to the company. Hmmm. Sounds like money is getting washed somewhere.
On the other hand, if these programs are in a public school they have been implemented by the government even though they are run by private companies. That doesn't explain the apparent sketchiness of money flows, however.
I need more information as well. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| However, for some reason, the school can only pay the fees directly to the teacher and so a new bank account must be opened to enable the transfer of funds from the school to the company. |
Run.
Never take one of these jobs where someone asks you to open a bank account and give them the passbook and pin.
Beware of any employer that requires you to open a bank account and give them the information. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like money is getting washed somewhere |
Yep, it's getting washed thru you. No speculation there, that's exactly what occurs.
So, what happens is the school takes out about 3% for simple tax purposes from the tuition fees that run thru you. Then, you'll likely have in your contract with the agent that you are paying about 5% tax from your salary paid to them. What you don't realise is that the initial tax on the tuition should be around 12-14% based on the highish income that should be accounted for in the tax return everyone lodges at end of financial year in May.
But, if you get in the position that you have to defend yourself with the Tax Service your program people will have no knowledge of you - everything is in your name: your bank, your classes ... including the contract (the second one you signed) with the school principal. Nothing goes back to the agents/program people. Actually, the tax you paid to the agents, that's going into someone's pocket, too, as the agents are not registered. If they were registered then they wouldn't be able to operate, since the very premise was made illegal by the Ed Dept some years ago. The Ed Dept lets it slide however as (to paraphrase) it is in some kind of common interest for the education needs of English learners, they fill a void and it's not entirely enforcable in terms of return. |
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