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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Frank Miller and the War on Terrorism Reply with quote

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In his view, America lacks firmness against its enemies: "It seems to me quite obvious that our country and the entire Western World is up against an existential foe that knows exactly what it wants... and we're behaving like a collapsing empire. Mighty cultures are almost never conquered, they crumble from within. And frankly, I think that a lot of Americans are acting like spoiled brats." About those being fought against, Miller said "For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we�re up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people�s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I�m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I�m living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built."


Frank Miller is awesome.
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Bigfeet



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I'm talking about. You have to meet sixth century barbarism with twenty-first century barbarism. That is all they understand. Put Israel and Palestine in a ring and let them two duke it out to the death. Invade North Korea and get it over with. Continuing with this detente BS for decades with no final resolution will just create generations of even more hostile kids.
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sharkey



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfeet wrote:
This is what I'm talking about. You have to meet sixth century barbarism with twenty-first century barbarism. That is all they understand. Put Israel and Palestine in a ring and let them two duke it out to the death. Invade North Korea and get it over with. Continuing with this detente BS for decades with no final resolution will just create generations of even more hostile kids.


yeah invade NK and watch it shoot a nuke at SK , good thinking
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Bigfeet



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because they waited so long to do it. I say invade anyway, I bet he's bluffing. Even if he's not, chances are great that he way over-estimated their military prowess.
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sharkey



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfeet wrote:
Because they waited so long to do it. I say invade anyway, I bet he's bluffing. Even if he's not, chances are great that he way over-estimated their military prowess.


your understanding of int'l relations is amazing... youo should rub for office
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Frank Miller and the War on Terrorism Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
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In his view, America lacks firmness against its enemies: "It seems to me quite obvious that our country and the entire Western World is up against an existential foe that knows exactly what it wants... and we're behaving like a collapsing empire. Mighty cultures are almost never conquered, they crumble from within. And frankly, I think that a lot of Americans are acting like spoiled brats." About those being fought against, Miller said "For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we�re up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people�s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I�m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I�m living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built."


Frank Miller is awesome.


Yeah, we never talk about muslim terrorists!

If anything, we need to ramp up the fear and ignorance even more!

Sweet!
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manlyboy



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Frank Miller and the War on Terrorism Reply with quote

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Yeah, we never talk about muslim terrorists!


Miller is in Hollywood, where even broaching the subject exposes one to accusations of being a Bushitler sympathiser. You can imagine the heat he must get for choosing not to be a drone in the leftist hive. For going against the Hollywood establishment he gets called fearful and ignorant, whereas if he toed the line and made a film denigrating the U.S, he'd get nothing but adoration and slaps on the back. And then they'd call him brave.
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it's full of stars



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn it, your right. America needs to invade another country, it was getting kinda boring on the news recently, and the anti-white guy/anti-western sentiment from the average joe on the street is wearing off.

Can't you leave well enough alone?

Anyway, next time choose a country where you can actually win within a reasonable time frame, will ya?

Let's see, maybe Monaco (is Monaco a country?), or the Vatican. The Swiss Guard only have pikes as weapons and golf carts to get around in, so I imagine the drones will be able to pick them off without too much trouble. And there won't be so any problems about identifying them either. They also have a distinct dress style, check out this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_guard

Bonus points for both countries as they both belong to Old Europe, especially Monaco which is the smallest French speaking country in the world. Nice, midget cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Hoo waa!

I imagine the USA should be able to finish this in about 2-3 years, judging by its past successes in war over the last 40 years.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Frank Miller and the War on Terrorism Reply with quote

Paji eh Wong wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
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In his view, America lacks firmness against its enemies: "It seems to me quite obvious that our country and the entire Western World is up against an existential foe that knows exactly what it wants... and we're behaving like a collapsing empire. Mighty cultures are almost never conquered, they crumble from within. And frankly, I think that a lot of Americans are acting like spoiled brats." About those being fought against, Miller said "For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we�re up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people�s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I�m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I�m living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built."


Frank Miller is awesome.


Yeah, we never talk about muslim terrorists!

If anything, we need to ramp up the fear and ignorance even more!

Sweet!


Do you think these "terrorists" are just random people who are pissed off at the US?

There are people in power that are supporting, organizing, funding,harboring, and recruiting these Islamofascists. Even Barack Obama knows who the enemy is.

It is ignorant to deny that we are fighting a war on terror, and that there ARE actual enemies.


Also, ever since Gulf War 1, Iraq had openly defied the world, and Saddam had been giving the finger to everyone. Somehow people easily forget Saddam Hussein, and paint Bush as a tyrant.

Ignorant people are the ones that "forget" the atrocities Saddam Hussein, and his regime caused in Iraq.


BTW, here is a nice quote from Barack Obama

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Iran�s President Ahmadinejad�s regime is a threat to all of us. His words contain a chilling echo of some of the world�s most tragic history.

Unfortunately, history has a terrible way of repeating itself. President Ahmadinejad has denied the Holocaust. He held a conference in his country, claiming it was a myth.

But we know the Holocaust was as real as the 6 million who died in mass graves at Buchenwald, or the cattle cars to Dachau or whose ashes clouded the sky at Auschwitz. We have seen the pictures. We have walked the halls of the Holocaust museum in Washington and Yad Vashem. We have touched the tattoos on loved-ones arms. After 60 years, it is time to deny the deniers.

In the 21st century, it is unacceptable that a member state of the United Nations would openly call for the elimination of another member state. But that is exactly what he has done.

Neither Israel nor the United States has the luxury of dismissing these outrages as mere rhetoric.
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it's full of stars



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barak's right. Chocks away!
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sharkey



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
Damn it, your right. America needs to invade another country, it was getting kinda boring on the news recently, and the anti-white guy/anti-western sentiment from the average joe on the street is wearing off.

Can't you leave well enough alone?

Anyway, next time choose a country where you can actually win within a reasonable time frame, will ya?

Let's see, maybe Monaco (is Monaco a country?), or the Vatican. The Swiss Guard only have pikes as weapons and golf carts to get around in, so I imagine the drones will be able to pick them off without too much trouble. And there won't be so any problems about identifying them either. They also have a distinct dress style, check out this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_guard

Bonus points for both countries as they both belong to Old Europe, especially Monaco which is the smallest French speaking country in the world. Nice, midget cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Hoo waa!

I imagine the USA should be able to finish this in about 2-3 years, judging by its past successes in war over the last 40 years.



america sucks at war, given fact. but, they still love it for some reason
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Frank Miller and the War on Terrorism Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:


Ignorant people are the ones that "forget" the atrocities Saddam Hussein, and his regime caused in Iraq.




Ignorant people are the ones who "forget" that the US supported Saddam when he was comitting most of these atrocities.
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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharkey wrote:
it's full of stars wrote:
Damn it, your right. America needs to invade another country, it was getting kinda boring on the news recently, and the anti-white guy/anti-western sentiment from the average joe on the street is wearing off.

Can't you leave well enough alone?

Anyway, next time choose a country where you can actually win within a reasonable time frame, will ya?

Let's see, maybe Monaco (is Monaco a country?), or the Vatican. The Swiss Guard only have pikes as weapons and golf carts to get around in, so I imagine the drones will be able to pick them off without too much trouble. And there won't be so any problems about identifying them either. They also have a distinct dress style, check out this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_guard

Bonus points for both countries as they both belong to Old Europe, especially Monaco which is the smallest French speaking country in the world. Nice, midget cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Hoo waa!

I imagine the USA should be able to finish this in about 2-3 years, judging by its past successes in war over the last 40 years.



america sucks at war, given fact. but, they still love it for some reason


Well, no. They're quite good at war. Occupation has been the failure.

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"For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we�re up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people�s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I�m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I�m living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built."


The whole "religion of peace" thing died quite quickly. Now the story is that they are "misunderstanders of islam", which is just another empty platitude. But over the past few years I've noticed a strong trend towards Western people realizing that islam is the problem. It is still largely un-pc to say so in public, but getting less so.

But I disagree that invading or otherwise attacking these states is a solution. Just stop importing hordes of muslims and *presto* we're more safe. Terrorism is first a policing/intelligence issue and second (a very close second) an immigration issue. We have absolutely no way to separate the obedients from the 'cultural muslims'. Immigration policy should reflect this.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
sharkey wrote:


america sucks at war, given fact. but, they still love it for some reason


Well, no. They're quite good at war. Occupation has been the failure.


This is true. The US military has proven it can clear a battlefield with a quickness. It was designed to kill people and blow shit up, and it's generally regarded as being the best in the world in that capacity. I think alot of people are confused and unable to see the difference between winning a military conflict and maintaining peace in a foreign country once the smoke clears.

Oh, and sharkey's an idiot, given fact.
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it's full of stars



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True Caniff, and the irony is the American government is its own worst enemy when it comes to these imperial solutions.
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