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Making the jump to Korea when family says no?
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silentwhispers



Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Location: Louisville/Atlanta

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Making the jump to Korea when family says no? Reply with quote

I visited Korea for 3 months during the summer of 2006 with my (now ex) boyfriend. I enjoyed being there and I would love to go back. I graduated from college in May and have not been able to find a job since, so I'm in desperate need of money.

Unfortunately, I'm stuck living in a huge house with only my mom and far too many animals (3 dogs, 6 cats, 5 horses, birds, chinchillas, fish..), which I am responsible for maintaining. I'm to the point where I can't handle being here anymore and feeling like an indentured servant. But the guilt of leaving my single mom who works 12 hour days sometimes here to do it all herself.

So basically, how can I make the move to Korea with no money and no family support? I know I need money starting out, but I also know I can't get any from my family.

Has anyone else had to deal with a similar situation with all the guilt? Does it go away? I feel like I would be abandoning my family.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Making the jump to Korea when family says no? Reply with quote

silentwhispers wrote:
Has anyone else had to deal with a similar situation with all the guilt? Does it go away? I feel like I would be abandoning my family.

You can't get a job where you live. At least, not a good one. You have a university degree. You can work for the government, shop around like that, but I can almost guarantee you, any job worth taking will be somewhere that's not where you live. That's the reality of it. So you have to put it in perspective. If an airport is an airport and a job is a job, then is it really that big of a leap to fly into Incheon or Narita instead of Sea-Tac or DFW? When you think about it, it's not.

You will need to leave home. The questions are when and under what terms.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I know of people who have come to Korea with very little money. They simply bought a bag of rice and lived off of that... Find out if the school that hires you serves lunch or not.

Maybe you could get a credit card and live off that until you make the big payday. Or, do you have any way to get any sort of McJob, and bring one paycheck from that to Korea?

Don't worry too much about your family. If you feel guilty, maybe you can send some money home each month for animal maintenance. It sounds as if you need some independent adult experiences. Come on down!
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
It sounds as if you need some independent adult experiences. Come on down!

It sounds as if she needs a job. It doesn't sound like mom really cares if it's Busan or San Francisco. You gotta move for the job. People ask me why I live in Korea. I tell them 'that's where my job is.'
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
Hi, I know of people who have come to Korea with very little money. They simply bought a bag of rice and lived off of that... Find out if the school that hires you serves lunch or not.

Maybe you could get a credit card and live off that until you make the big payday. Or, do you have any way to get any sort of McJob, and bring one paycheck from that to Korea?

Don't worry too much about your family. If you feel guilty, maybe you can send some money home each month for animal maintenance. It sounds as if you need some independent adult experiences. Come on down!


She could do what I did and put the first month on credit...of course I got bit on the ass when the exchange rate dropped 20% within 2 months.
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silentwhispers



Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Location: Louisville/Atlanta

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
Don't worry too much about your family. If you feel guilty, maybe you can send some money home each month for animal maintenance. It sounds as if you need some independent adult experiences. Come on down!


That is a brilliant idea and I do not know why I had not thought of it sooner. And not so much independent adult experiences, as I've been on my own for the past 6 years. It's just difficult to find a job with the economy and I had no choice BUT to move home or rely only on dumpstered food. Bummer.

And it seems I'm "over qualified" for non-specialized jobs, like Starbucks, and "under qualified" for anything related to my major/minor. So that's not much of an option for taking money to Korea.

Anyways, thanks for the idea.
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of schools will give you part of your pay early, if you ask nicely, so that you can survive the first month. You will need about 500-700 000 if you are kinda an average eater and you don't need to buy pizzas and other expensive goodies.
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Join Me



Joined: 14 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get a part time job for a month to save up a bit of money. I mean, you have to have some cash when you arrive in Korea. Your first payday will not be for a month and during that time you will have to feed yourself and take care of other basic needs.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silentwhispers wrote:
Kaypea wrote:
Don't worry too much about your family. If you feel guilty, maybe you can send some money home each month for animal maintenance. It sounds as if you need some independent adult experiences. Come on down!


That is a brilliant idea and I do not know why I had not thought of it sooner.

Careful. Once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Unless the pets are yours. Once you start subsidizing family members, the relationship changes. This isn't mother to child, this is child to brother or child to mother. And they will dump you in the river when the well runs dry.
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silentwhispers



Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Location: Louisville/Atlanta

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:

Careful. Once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Unless the pets are yours. Once you start subsidizing family members, the relationship changes. This isn't mother to child, this is child to brother or child to mother. And they will dump you in the river when the well runs dry.


yea yea... Good point. But a good bit of them are mine. 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, 2 chinchillas...
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silentwhispers wrote:
Straphanger wrote:

Careful. Once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Unless the pets are yours. Once you start subsidizing family members, the relationship changes. This isn't mother to child, this is child to brother or child to mother. And they will dump you in the river when the well runs dry.

yea yea... Good point. But a good bit of them are mine. 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, 2 chinchillas...

Then you're obligated. Pets are a commitment. You gotta work out ahead of time what it costs for feed and board a horse, a dog, two cats, and a chinchilla that you won't be seeing for at least a year. And you gotta work that out ahead of time, plus you need to plan for eventualities like vet visits, emergency care, insurance... Could be cheaper to stay home and take care of them yourself.

I've met people in your situation. There are lots of jobs out there that afford you the opportunity to stay home a large part of your day. You're going to need some licenses (real estate appraisal?) or come certificates. You can also tutor outside your home (in your home would require insurance).
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silentwhispers wrote:
Straphanger wrote:

Careful. Once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Unless the pets are yours. Once you start subsidizing family members, the relationship changes. This isn't mother to child, this is child to brother or child to mother. And they will dump you in the river when the well runs dry.


yea yea... Good point. But a good bit of them are mine. 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, 2 chinchillas...


Why so many horses? Sheesh, for single mom she's gotta be ranking in the dough to own 5 horses....she could always hire a helper.
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rocketdolphin



Joined: 28 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Making the jump to Korea when family says no? Reply with quote

silentwhispers wrote:
I visited Korea for 3 months during the summer of 2006 with my (now ex) boyfriend. I enjoyed being there and I would love to go back. I graduated from college in May and have not been able to find a job since, so I'm in desperate need of money.

Unfortunately, I'm stuck living in a huge house with only my mom and far too many animals (3 dogs, 6 cats, 5 horses, birds, chinchillas, fish..), which I am responsible for maintaining. I'm to the point where I can't handle being here anymore and feeling like an indentured servant. But the guilt of leaving my single mom who works 12 hour days sometimes here to do it all herself.

So basically, how can I make the move to Korea with no money and no family support? I know I need money starting out, but I also know I can't get any from my family.

Has anyone else had to deal with a similar situation with all the guilt? Does it go away? I feel like I would be abandoning my family.


I'm in the same situation as you. I just graduated but no one is hiring for my profession. All our teachers told us it would be best to stay in school and get our master's degree because of how bad it is, but I can't afford it.
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see...horses vs Korea. I think you'd be crazy to want to come over here, frankly.

I think a real problem w/ Korea is that people are to easily tricked into thinking teaching English is a real job. My family said no many years ago and i can't help thinking now that they were probably right.
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Socks



Joined: 15 May 2008
Location: somewhere in here...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mother is working 12 hours a day to support you and all those animals...

If they are your animals - get rid of them (you can't support them)..

If the animals belong to you mother - then why have so many... (less animals - means your mother can use the money she works so hard for on other more important things).

I take it - you are older than 20 years (university degree) - you can move anywhere you want..

You are not enslaved to your mother.. (Your mother doesn't own you)..

However - first fix the animal problem..
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