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meangradin · Joined: 10 Mar 2006

Which band is more influential?

I say Joy Division, as they really shaped music in the 80's and it seems that much of what I hear today has a heavy Joy Division sound.

HapKi · Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL

In terms of spin-off bands, New Order has had a bigger impact than Foo Fighters (nothing against Dave Grohl).

meangradin · Joined: 10 Mar 2006

I know it is really a Joy Division song, but I think New Order's "Ceremony" is one of the best songs of the 80's. BTW, John Peel also thought so.

JMO · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu

Joy Division are the better band. This is a wierd comparison though, I don't see the connection.

robot · Joined: 07 Mar 2006

Nirvana blows Joy Division away...

Both bands fathered scenes, or at least were the main band associated with it (grunge & post-punk, respectively), and both were fronted by tortured souls that you couldn't rip your eyes off of.

But Nirvana was heralded as the band that defined our generation. They had more of an impact on mainstream culture, had more cross-genre influence, had a bigger discography and sold more records... they're right up there with the Beatles on many critics' lists as bands that changed music, not just a subgenre of it.

crazy_arcade · Joined: 05 Nov 2006

Nirvana for it's immediate influence.

Joy Division's influence seems to be neverending.

meangradin · Joined: 10 Mar 2006

Did anyone watch "Control" or the New Order Documentary (can't remember the name)?

The guy who played Ian Curtis in Control was uncanny in his performance, especially those slick 80's dance moves.

JMO · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu

Pink Freud · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Daegu

Both are enormously overrated and lamentably influential bands with leaders that died too late, rather than too early.

Oooh, that's kind of nasty.

OhioPBJ · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Gangnam

I would vote Joy Division on this one.

Now, the question remains, would you rather hang yourself or blow your brains out?

crosbystillsstash · Joined: 12 Oct 2008

Hanging yourself is more trippy they say.

Underwaterbob · Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito

5600 · Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Location: At an undisclosed FEMA camp.

I think in terms of black eye-liner sales vs. flannel shirt sales then JD would take it. "Gunge" as they called it thankfully only lasted a few short years so the flannel industry didn't flourish for to long. The post-punk/goth thing has never gone away. Since about 2002ish, the current trend that has picked up steam is the "three words for the groups name" emo cry baby bands. And they are all sporting the eye-liner.

Ron Ashton RIP

bobbyhanlon · Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Location: 서울

joy division are definitely more influential, but i'd rather listen to nirvana.
i think nirvana built on their influences, ie. pixies, black sabbath, etc., and made something amazing with them. sadly their legacy was to have influence d a lot of crap bands who didn't have the tunes and the soul that kurt cobain had.

still, joy division were also genius, it should be said. they created a sound, whereas nirvana perfected an existing one.

meangradin · Joined: 10 Mar 2006