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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: CAROLINE KENNEDY, WE HARDLY KNOW YE: Let's keep it that way |
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The pre-eminent Liberal Lady of Entitlement these days has got to be none other than Caroline Kennedy.
Here she makes Sarah Palin seem eloquent:
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KENNEDY SPEAKS OUT
BY KENNETH LOVETT
DAILY NEWS ALBANY BUREAU CHIEF
December 27th 2008
A defiant Caroline Kennedy says she "wouldn't be beholden to anybody" - including Mayor Bloomberg - if she's picked to become New York's next U.S. senator.
"I'm really coming into this as somebody who isn't, you know, part of the system, who obviously, you know, stands for the values of, you know, the Democratic Party," Kennedy told the Daily News Saturday during a wide-ranging interview.
"I know how important it is to, you know, to be my own person. And, you know, and that would be obviously true with my relationship with the mayor."
Kennedy, sipping on peppermint tea at an upper East Side diner, was responding to Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, who said she could be more beholden to Bloomberg than Gov. Paterson, who will make the Senate appointment.
JFK's daughter has been helped behind the scenes by the mayor's top aide, Kevin Sheekey. She has also hired a political consulting firm with ties to Bloomberg.
Despite her closeness with the mayor, Kennedy said she has never voted for him, or any Republican for that matter, and insisted she will support the Democratic candidate for mayor next year.
Kennedy, 51, is one of a number of New Yorkers looking to replace Sen. Hillary Clinton, who will give up the seat to become secretary of state.
Criticized for ignoring reporters after her name surfaced as a possible Clinton replacement, Kennedy sat down with the media this weekend. Displaying her notorious shyness during the 30-minute chat, the mother of three, author and public education advocate was pleasant, but spoke softly and rarely made eye contact. Her speech was often punctuated with extra "you knows" and "ums."
Kennedy said she is excited and up to the challenge of not only serving in the Senate but mounting a run for the seat in 2010 and 2012.
"I'm not as shy as everybody makes me out to be," she said.
Kennedy revealed she has had several recent discussions with her former cousin-in-law, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who is also considered a serious candidate for the Senate seat.
"Andrew is, you know, highly qualified for this job," she said. "He's doing a, you know, a great job as attorney general, and we've spoken throughout this process."
Despite his bitter divorce from Kerry Kennedy, in which her family accused Cuomo of spilling about his wife's extramarital affair, Caroline Kennedy said the recent conversations have been amicable.
"You know, I think, you know, we're sort of, uh, sharing some of this experience. And um, as I've said, he was a friend, a family member, and um so, and uh obviously, he's, you know, he's also had an impressive career in public office."
Although Cuomo has said he is fond of Kennedy, he has refused to say whether he believes she is qualified to be senator.
Bashed as a political novice, Kennedy argued that her ties in Washington, particularly to President-elect Barack Obama, can help her deliver for New York. She denied that her interest in the seat is driven by a desire to ensure the family continues its decades-long presence in the Senate.
"It's really, you know, it's not about just the Kennedy name," she said. "It's about my own work and what I've done with those values."
She refused to discuss details of her personal wealth and again said she would file all legal disclosures publicly only if she is selected for the seat.
Kennedy also said as a senator she would help New York Democrats raise money. The News reported last week that she has done little in the way of donating money to New York politicians over the years.
She also says she realizes campaigning means making sure not to offend locals, by things like rejecting a sausage sandwich at a state fair, the way Republican Rick Lazio, who lost to Clinton in 2000, famously did.
When asked if she would eat the sausage sandwich, she laughed, smiled and said, "I'm starving." |
Gee, and who said an Ivy League education and inherited riches, plus a coterie of culturally well-bred friends doesn't make for an intellectual giant? Don't hold your breath waiting for SNL to lampoon her.
Do you think Ms. Kennedy has anything going for her other than name recognition, the Camelot myth, and some well-heeled handlers? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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While I think she is likely unfit to be a senator, I think the 'um's and 'you know's are a result of shyness (which admittedly is a poor quality in a legislative representative).
If you take those out, she at least makes sense. Sarah Palin was completely nonsensical at times. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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caniff:
Can't agree with you on this score. What got her lampooned other than being a non-liberal was her accent and the fact that she was unbased in talking like the woman next door. Caroline has lost most of her New England accent but can't seem to muster an opinion on anything. At least Palin was confident with her convictions.
Shyness is a major affliction for a politician but I think hers is more practiced than genuine. Comes from being around fake liberal activists. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you think Ms. Kennedy has anything going for her other than name recognition, the Camelot myth, and some well-heeled handlers? |
She was co-author of "The Right to Privacy" and "In Our Defense", so there is some engagement with important issues there. Still, it's clearly not enough. Still, I wouldn't vote for her. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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Sliding into office on name worship has been done before and has been pulled off admirably, but this skirt just flat needs to stay out of office.
Let's put the Kennedys to bed, shall we?
*Edited for grammar.
Last edited by ReeseDog on Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Gamecock
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Can't agree with you on this score. What got her lampooned other than being a non-liberal was her accent and the fact that she was unbased in talking like the woman next door. Caroline has lost most of her New England accent but can't seem to muster an opinion on anything. At least Palin was confident with her convictions.
Shyness is a major affliction for a politician but I think hers is more practiced than genuine. Comes from being around fake liberal activists. |
The only person that can say this and believe it about Sara Palin is the most extreme partisan delusionalist. Not even the man in your avatar agrees with you. |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| The only person that can say this and believe it about Sara Palin is the most extreme partisan delusionalist. Not even the man in your avatar agrees with you. |
Oh, really? I'm not a party member; so much for that conjecture. Are you saying that Palin wasn't confident of the views she expressed on various issues? I'd say if anything she was overconfident, even cocky whereas Kennedy comes across as mealy-mouthed. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
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Sliding into office on name worship has been done before and has been pulled off admirably, but this skirt just flat needs to stay out of office.
Let's put the Kennedy's to bed, shall we? |
My wish is that we finally put the Bushes to bed, but I don't think that is going to happen either. I don't have much of an opinion about Caroline, but I think it is a little late to scowl at dynastic rights of succession after voting in the second President Bush. Bushes� dad also believed that his Ivy League background entitled him the presidency and was beside himself when Reagan got the nomination. So now America wakes up to protest what would probably be a harmless appointment to the Senate?
Maybe there is some hope for the American Sheeple after all. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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I think C. Kennedy, given her aristocratic-style upbringing, and her interest in public affairs, remains at least as qualified to serve New York in the United States Senate as H. Clinton ever was.
I, for one, support her being there. On balance, the Kennedys bring the best kind of idealism and faith in govt with them. Also, it remains a short, two-year appointed term. People ought to relax. No one is suggesting appointing her to the Court, are they? Appoint her and see what happens in 2010. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown
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I think the dems are sending a mixed message. On the one hand, the election of Obama shows that even the black son of an immigrant can reach the highest office in the land. On the other, "Hell, let's just give this senate seat away to someone who's never run for office before in her life, but she's a KENNEDY!" Blagojovich may be a scumbag, but he's right when he says a senate seat is a valuable thing and the Dems are falling all over themselves to give this thing away to someone's whose biggest qualification as far as I see it is a shiny brand name.
I read in an article that C. Kennedy said that people would always ask her when and if she'd enter politics. Her response was that it never seemed like the right time, but now it does. Of course, now it does. Especially when she doesn't have to do anything to earn that position like campaign, raise money, pay dues to the system, etc... If i were an elected official in New York--any elected official--i'd be incredibly pissed off over this. I don't want another Kennedy in office--I want somebody who's earned the spot the hard way.
The ONLY reason the Dems and H. Reid are going gaga over C. Kennedy is the fact that with her name, she'll be able to raise the money for a senate run in 2010 a lot easier than anybody else on this list: http://council.nyc.gov/html/members/members.shtml |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Gopher:
Saying that Caroline is at least as qualified as Hillary isn't exactly a ringing endorsement in my book. I'll wager, for instance, that Condoleeza has a greater working knowledge of world geography and diplomacy than Hillary (even before her current appointment). She is also conversant in Russian.
What grates me about Kennedy is her most recent statement that she believes she is the MOST qualified for the post. That verges on arrogance, which only her blueblood husband and the Cape Cod clan would approve of.
Truth be told, the Gov would be hard pressed to find anyone of the caliber of the seat's former occupant, Daniel Patrick Moynihan. |
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