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Board of Education Needs Your Original Diploma...

 
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Board of Education Needs Your Original Diploma... Reply with quote

... to hold onto. Got that one today.

WTF is wrong with people?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they don't.

They just need a copy of the original.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
No they don't.

They just need a copy of the original.


That's all anyone's getting.

Have you heard of this before? Seems strange.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a ruse to get some bargaining chips on you.

If they hold your diploma they can hold it for ransom.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 words: Not in the contract.

4 more words: Not for immigration's requirements.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
It's just a ruse to get some bargaining chips on you.

If they hold your diploma they can hold it for ransom.


That was my first reaction. But I'm just not sure. They're not getting my original, so the point is moot.

I saw that there was a meeting when I came in yesterday with some people I've never seen before. Could it be one of those hagwon association things? Giving my boss pointers on how to do this and that? I think this might be her first stint at the hagwon industry. I've been here for more than four years and no one has ever requested my original diploma. My first job might've asked to copy it. Can't remember. Actually the owner at my first job had my diploma for a while until I finally just asked him for it.

Come to think of it, my last job, I had to ask for my diploma after the visa run. The manager was "Oh, it's at head office" and I just told him that it's mine and that I want it. He came into my office a few minutes later with it. So it wasn't at head office.

So this is a common ruse, eh? Hmm. I guess so. I know all about it, but I didn't think it was so ubiquitous. After applying for my visa for this job, the recruiter handed me my diploma straight away. He's a good guy and is dealing with them on this.

They don't know here that I know pretty much everything there is to know about this crap. Some people are crackers.
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Godhasbeengoodtome



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A diploma like your passport is personal properity and should be held onto by yourself at all times.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the passport is the property of your country's government. You are still correct, though, that it should be in your possession, not your boss's!
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gteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A copy of your Diploma is needed when they register you with the local BoE. Most smart companies will make this copy when they colect your documents for your visa and then return your Diploma to you and never need to ask for it again.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent my original last time, no probs. Then again, I also have two degrees. I told my uni that I lost one. If you send a copy, you'll need to get it apostillised.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gteacher wrote:
A copy of your Diploma is needed when they register you with the local BoE. Most smart companies will make this copy when they colect your documents for your visa and then return your Diploma to you and never need to ask for it again.



This is correct.

Teachers are required to be registered with the local Board of Education within 10 days from their first day of teaching. If your school registers you late, there is a fine for the school.

The school must file a copy of your diploma, transcripts and your Alien Registration Card (although these rules vary from office to office).

This may seem odd of course. You have 3 months from your date of arrival to get your ARC from Immigration, but your school must file a copy of that ARC within 10 days of your first day of work. So, a foreigner may be in Korea up to 3 months before getting an ARC, but if you're a teacher, you only have 10 days from your first teaching day to actually have the ARC in hand from Immigration and get a copy to the Education office.
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blasos



Joined: 12 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie here, hello everyone Very Happy

You have probably been asked this many times before but is it possible for me to teach in Korea even though I just have a diploma?
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Big Mac



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was asked to give my original degree so that the school could go to the board of education and register me as well. I got it back the next day though. If they're saying that the board of education needs to hold on to it, they're full of it. They just need to see it.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
gteacher wrote:
A copy of your Diploma is needed when they register you with the local BoE. Most smart companies will make this copy when they colect your documents for your visa and then return your Diploma to you and never need to ask for it again.



This is correct.

Teachers are required to be registered with the local Board of Education within 10 days from their first day of teaching. If your school registers you late, there is a fine for the school.

The school must file a copy of your diploma, transcripts and your Alien Registration Card (although these rules vary from office to office).

This may seem odd of course. You have 3 months from your date of arrival to get your ARC from Immigration, but your school must file a copy of that ARC within 10 days of your first day of work. So, a foreigner may be in Korea up to 3 months before getting an ARC, but if you're a teacher, you only have 10 days from your first teaching day to actually have the ARC in hand from Immigration and get a copy to the Education office.


Well then they must be pretty lax on these rules and fines.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
ontheway wrote:
gteacher wrote:
A copy of your Diploma is needed when they register you with the local BoE. Most smart companies will make this copy when they colect your documents for your visa and then return your Diploma to you and never need to ask for it again.



This is correct.

Teachers are required to be registered with the local Board of Education within 10 days from their first day of teaching. If your school registers you late, there is a fine for the school.

The school must file a copy of your diploma, transcripts and your Alien Registration Card (although these rules vary from office to office).

This may seem odd of course. You have 3 months from your date of arrival to get your ARC from Immigration, but your school must file a copy of that ARC within 10 days of your first day of work. So, a foreigner may be in Korea up to 3 months before getting an ARC, but if you're a teacher, you only have 10 days from your first teaching day to actually have the ARC in hand from Immigration and get a copy to the Education office.


Well then they must be pretty lax on these rules and fines.


They are until one of the students make an official complaint.

The MoE is pretty much understaffed and they only deal with complaints.
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