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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:10 am Post subject: Law Angers Foreign Teachers |
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New Visa Law Angers Foreign Teachers Here
By Kang Shin-who, Korea Times (January 9, 2009)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/01/117_37539.html
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Foreign teachers are complaining over the government's new immigration law asking them to submit police background checks and medical documents....
"If the government has decided to tighten the issuance of teaching visas because of increasing number of crimes by foreign teachers, what about other foreign teachers holding other types of visas such as F-2 or F-4?" said an Australian English teacher in Daejeon.
The immigration office said every country has its own right and guidelines to decide who they allow to issue visas to. The number of E-2 visa holders stood at some 20,000 last year. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Law Angers Foreign Teachers |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
New Visa Law Angers Foreign Teachers Here
By Kang Shin-who, Korea Times (January 9, 2009)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/01/117_37539.html
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Foreign teachers are complaining over the government's new immigration law asking them to submit police background checks and medical documents....
"If the government has decided to tighten the issuance of teaching visas because of increasing number of crimes by foreign teachers, what about other foreign teachers holding other types of visas such as F-2 or F-4?" said an Australian English teacher in Daejeon.
The immigration office said every country has its own right and guidelines to decide who they allow to issue visas to. The number of E-2 visa holders stood at some 20,000 last year. |
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New visa law? Jesus was riding dinosaurs when that law came in, I'm on E-2 under that law. |
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afsjesse
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Will someone PLEASE tell me how any of this is new????
Current rules are as follows:
Criminal Background Check
Health Check
Transcripts
University Degree/2 years completed
Interview
The first three are in the "new" bill that the government is touting. What is so new about it????? except the fact that it becomes an official Act?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this won't effect any of us. |
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Beeyee
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I called immigration to clarify this today.
They told me that before, only sex or drug related offenses would stop someone from getting an E-2. The new rules (as of March) mean that ANY criminal record, no matter how minor, will mean that you are unable to get an E-2 visa. |
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afsjesse
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Well that's retarded. Does that mean if I get a speeding ticket I can't come to Planet K!!!!?
If that's it, than so be it. But what a stupid, lazy law to put into place. I mean are they really that lazy to look at the record for all but 4 seconds to see if you're a rapist, murder or just a minor offendant?
I have nothing to worry about, but I'm so sick of feeling like a terciary guest in this country I could throw-up. |
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Hapkido-In
Joined: 24 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I noticed a small article in the Korea Herald today that said to get an E-2 Visa you will now need to submit your medical records. This seemed to be in addition to the health check you need to get done when you get to Korea.
The article also mentioned that this new policy should come into effect in March of this year.
It's getting very difficult to get a visa in Korea and with the exchange rate what it is, other countries are becoming much more attractive. I hope that some one points this out to the policy makers here, given how much money people spend learning English here. |
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Korean visa laws have never angered me. It's just the way it is in Korea, and if you don't like it you don't have to be here.
The title should say "New Visa Law Angers Some Foreign Teachers."
I don't want Korean reporters to speak for me. I can speak for myself. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| afsjesse wrote: |
Well that's retarded. Does that mean if I get a speeding ticket I can't come to Planet K!!!!?
If that's it, than so be it. But what a stupid, lazy law to put into place. I mean are they really that lazy to look at the record for all but 4 seconds to see if you're a rapist, murder or just a minor offendant?
I have nothing to worry about, but I'm so sick of feeling like a terciary guest in this country I could throw-up. |
A Criminal Record refers to someone with a conviction to a Felony, not a misdemeanor. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| afsjesse wrote: |
Well that's retarded. Does that mean if I get a speeding ticket I can't come to Planet K!!!!?
If that's it, than so be it. But what a stupid, lazy law to put into place. I mean are they really that lazy to look at the record for all but 4 seconds to see if you're a rapist, murder or just a minor offendant?
I have nothing to worry about, but I'm so sick of feeling like a terciary guest in this country I could throw-up. |
A Criminal Record refers to someone with a conviction to a Felony, not a misdemeanor. |
No. In the USA, misdemeanors are on your criminal record. If you have a misdemeanor, you have a criminal record.
But let's let immigration answer this. See Beeyee's post a few lines back:
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I called immigration to clarify this today.
They told me that before, only sex or drug related offenses would stop someone from getting an E-2. The new rules (as of March) mean that ANY criminal record, no matter how minor, will mean that you are unable to get an E-2 visa. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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The way I understand it, and I could be out to lunch, but this is a non issue.
The "news" is that current immigration regulations are being enacted as law.
Semantics, nothing more, as it really has no effect on anyone. |
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: |
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The way I understand it, and I could be out to lunch, but this is a non issue.
The "news" is that current immigration regulations are being enacted as law.
Semantics, nothing more, as it really has no effect on anyone. |
Right. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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The one question I do have is what the KT's motive is for running a story to stir the pot so to speak.
This is an issue that I'm pretty sure would just fly right under our radar, but one of the English language dailies runs an ambiguous story, giving the impression that things are changing, coupled with a headline that the foreign teacher community is upset about it.
I wonder whether the Korea Times staff is really incompetent or whether they just act that way to forward their anti-foreign agenda. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: |
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I think it only makes sense to require a medical, if they're requiring it anyway, to ask for one before issuing a visa. The whole process of getting the E2 only to show up, or go for a visa run, come back and then being deported for a bad medical after the fact is just a waste of everyone's time and money.
Real Reality, quit bringing up old shit. |
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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The one question I do have is what the KT's motive is for running a story to stir the pot so to speak.
This is an issue that I'm pretty sure would just fly right under our radar, but one of the English language dailies runs an ambiguous story, giving the impression that things are changing, coupled with a headline that the foreign teacher community is upset about it.
I wonder whether the Korea Times staff is really incompetent or whether they just act that way to forward their anti-foreign agenda. |
Their motive is making money. Their agenda is making money. Plain and simple. They will print whatever sells. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| afsjesse wrote: |
Well that's retarded. Does that mean if I get a speeding ticket I can't come to Planet K!!!!?
If that's it, than so be it. But what a stupid, lazy law to put into place. I mean are they really that lazy to look at the record for all but 4 seconds to see if you're a rapist, murder or just a minor offendant? |
No, a speeding ticket is a civil, not a criminal, offense.
The new Korean law is even more strict than United States inadmissibility grounds, which bars those who have committed crimes of 'moral turpitude' (with a few exceptions, see INA 212(a)(2)). ). |
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