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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: TESOL Certificate Question |
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In proper hijacking form, I posted my query on another thread. However, I did not get any response. I thought I would start a new thread to resolve my question.
The other thread can be found here: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=143936
There is a lot of talk about the number of hours for a particular TESOL/TEFL/WHATEVER course. My coursework did not entail a number of specific hours like one would find with many short-term or online program. I am wondering what my program is actually worth here in Korea. How do prospective employers view my program compared with the other programs that are mentioned so often?
In short, I took graduate level courses at American University in Washington, DC. I earned a TESOL Certificate which constitutes what is basically half of a Master's degree in TESOL. I took 5 courses. They were each 3 credits. My courses were English Language Teaching I, English Language Teaching II, Second Language Acquisition, Teaching Pronunciation, and Linguistics. A link to my program can be found here: http://www.american.edu/tesol/
Any thoughts? What would this do for me if I decided to make a transition to public schools? Would it hold any weight with universities?
I only ask because the coursework was extremely difficult and the curriculum was rigorous. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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With regard to transition to the PS system, it will bump you one pay level IF you can prove it was a 100+ hour course. From your description it 'sounds' as though that may be difficult. |
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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
With regard to transition to the PS system, it will bump you one pay level IF you can prove it was a 100+ hour course. From your description it 'sounds' as though that may be difficult. |
That is exactly what my question is. What constitutes 100+ hours?
5 classes * 3 hours per week * 15 weeks = 225 hours
-This is just class time. It does not include time spent with assignments, tutoring, class observations, and reading.
Is this what we are talking about here? |
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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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*bump*  |
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ThingsComeAround

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Can you provide this information on a piece of paper (like a cert.)?
If not, the school probably won't care. Not saying that is right, but it seems to be the general way things are done. |
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losing_touch

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Can you provide this information on a piece of paper (like a cert.)?
If not, the school probably won't care. Not saying that is right, but it seems to be the general way things are done. |
Yes, I have a certificate. Let me see ... Here is what it says:
American University
Chartered by Act of Congress of the United States of America
February twenty-fourth, eighteen hundred and ninety-three
certifies through the TESOL Program of the Department of Language and Foreign Studies
MY NAME
successfully completed all requirements for a 15-credit certificate in the field of
Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, your certificate does not have the 'magic' number on it. |
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losing_touch

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I have a pretty good relationship with the coordinator of the program. Do you think a letter would help? I could have him write anything. In fact, I could probably write it and have him sign off on it. |
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Bigfeet

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see why that wouldn't equate to a 100+ hours course. Show them the transcripts and writing down how many hours each course took. Also get that letter from your prof. explaining it out. |
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cruisemonkey

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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losing_touch wrote: |
Well, I have a pretty good relationship with the coordinator of the program. Do you think a letter would help? I could have him write anything. In fact, I could probably write it and have him sign off on it. |
It's worth a try - you have nothing to loose.
Unfortunately, because you will be dealing with a K-eauracy, linear 'western' logic does not apply. |
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ChinaBoy
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, for that reason alone it's highly doubtful that's going to fly. Looks like 15 hours |
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