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Sir John Hawkins
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
Location: Ulsan, SK
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 Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: Pension Issues |
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| My school (hogwan) is still trying to claim that we are "freelance teachers" not eligable for pension. I have been looking through the pension site for about an hour now and I cannot find anything that tells me if I am eligiable or not. It says that private school teachers are not eligable, but I heard that was for teachers covered under a different plan. What say you fellow ESL'ers...any help? I want to be able to show my boss exactly where it says we have a right to pension under the law. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Just go to the pension office after your contract is finsihed and file your claim with them. You'll need your part of the contributions and then they'll go after your employer for their part. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure he's wrong, but I guess the only way to get solid information to present to your boss would be to call the pension office and get them to tell you that he has to pay. Ask specifically whether or not there is an exception for freelance workers and if so get a definition of what it means to be a freelance worker and see if you qualify. Get the person's name and contact details so that your boss can call them if he wants to argue about it.
You're not going to get such solid information from a few posters on here. Go to the source if you want reliable information (although in Korea, sometimes even that doesn't necessarily work). |
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Sir John Hawkins
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
Location: Ulsan, SK
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| Big Mac wrote: |
I'm pretty sure he's wrong, but I guess the only way to get solid information to present to your boss would be to call the pension office and get them to tell you that he has to pay. Ask specifically whether or not there is an exception for freelance workers and if so get a definition of what it means to be a freelance worker and see if you qualify. Get the person's name and contact details so that your boss can call them if he wants to argue about it.
You're not going to get such solid information from a few posters on here. Go to the source if you want reliable information (although in Korea, sometimes even that doesn't necessarily work). |
I have tried to call them a few times, they are always saying they dont speak english or that I need to call another office. The pension website is so vague, it doesnt have any good solid information. I will try and call them again tomorrow and see what happens. I dont think you can be "freelance" on a e-2 anyhow. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Don't call. Go to the office. Show them your arc and don't take no for an answer.
You'll get the money. It might take 6 months or a year, but you'll get it. |
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Sir John Hawkins
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
Location: Ulsan, SK
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
Don't call. Go to the office. Show them your arc and don't take no for an answer.
You'll get the money. It might take 6 months or a year, but you'll get it. |
Well, I just got here two months ago...I am not even sure I want to do another year in Korea....thus is why I am trying to keep the train on the tracks here in terms of my boss treating me lawfully. I still dont have a medical card. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Sir John Hawkins wrote: |
| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
Don't call. Go to the office. Show them your arc and don't take no for an answer.
You'll get the money. It might take 6 months or a year, but you'll get it. |
Well, I just got here two months ago...I am not even sure I want to do another year in Korea....thus is why I am trying to keep the train on the tracks here in terms of my boss treating me lawfully. I still dont have a medical card. |
What does it say in your contract? If your employer agreed to the terms and not fulfilling them, get all the teachers to do a sit in at the school until the boss, health insurance and pension is sorted out.
Jesus, would you work for someone in your home country who promised something but never adhered to that. Remember the school needs the teachers more than you need them. You are the one in control and the school will have to agree to the teachers' request. |
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Sir John Hawkins
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
Location: Ulsan, SK
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Whistleblower wrote: |
| Sir John Hawkins wrote: |
| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
Don't call. Go to the office. Show them your arc and don't take no for an answer.
You'll get the money. It might take 6 months or a year, but you'll get it. |
Well, I just got here two months ago...I am not even sure I want to do another year in Korea....thus is why I am trying to keep the train on the tracks here in terms of my boss treating me lawfully. I still dont have a medical card. |
What does it say in your contract? If your employer agreed to the terms and not fulfilling them, get all the teachers to do a sit in at the school until the boss, health insurance and pension is sorted out.
Jesus, would you work for someone in your home country who promised something but never adhered to that. Remember the school needs the teachers more than you need them. You are the one in control and the school will have to agree to the teachers' request. |
The contract says nothing about Pension - optional medical. Id honestly rather not have medical. Pension, I want. I think they want to keep people int he dark about pension to save themselves money. |
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